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I don't really get what this heat between Taker and Brock is all about. So Brock didn't want to job back in 2004 when The Deadman was back and they are still bitter about it to this day? What was that UFC thing about when Taker asked Brock "You wanna do it?" and wouldn't WM29 be the place for Brock to do the return job he never did when he was supposed to?
It's pretty much the place to go after HBK and HHH both fell short twice in the last four years. Outside of Cena and maybe The Rock, no one is credible enough to take on the streak, except Lesnar that is. This is so simple yet I am paranoid about them fucking it up as usual.
If Edge/Matt Hardy and Bret Hart/HBK could work together despite their real life heat, I'm pretty sure Bork and Taker can too.
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Nobody needs the win against Taker. Besides, Brock and Taker have much more history together than Punk and Taker who have practically none. Punk/Taker does nothing for me and I don't want to see it. I'd much rather have Brock/Taker. For me there are only 2 guys left for Taker to face; Brock and Cena. Trips isn't an option this time and everybody else is nowhere near credible enough including Punk which is why I still don't buy into the match happening. Taker knows it, Vince knows it and I'm sure even Punk knows it himself.
I think it needs to be people that would benefit from a win and thus the match would be more unpredictable. And Punk is simply one of those big enough to be a good foil, but also good enough on the mic to hold a feud. Brock/Taker would be nothing more than just a match with no heat and you can see him getting a huge rub from winning therefore there is doubt that Taker is a certain win.
WM needs to stop being the showcase of the part timers and really needs to be about the next batch of main event talent. So give the spotlight to guys like Bryan, Ziggler, and Punk. I really don't wanna see HHH/Brock II, or Cena/Rock II, or Taker/Brock. They do nothing for the long term of the company and only serve to further push the up and coming talent back further. If it's just basically a showcase of the part timer, the WWE is fucked.
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If they don't do Brock/Taker then fuck that. It writes itself. Punk/Taker is a joke of a match and Brock/HHH is a rematch we really don't need to see. I don't buy all this talk about Punk/Taker anyways. Taker isn't that stupid. He knows that facing Punk is a HUGE step backwards after his last few matches. No offense to Punk or anything but it's the truth. I still say Brock/Taker is for 29 and Cena/Taker for 30.
Dude, he went from taking out Diesel, Sid, and Masked Kane to Big Boss Man.
And then from Triple H & Ric Flair to A-Train.
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Nobody needs the win against Taker. Besides, Brock and Taker have much more history together than Punk and Taker who have practically none. Punk/Taker does nothing for me and I don't want to see it. I'd much rather have Brock/Taker. For me there are only 2 guys left for Taker to face; Brock and Cena. Trips isn't an option this time and everybody else is nowhere near credible enough including Punk which is why I still don't buy into the match happening. Taker knows it, Vince knows it and I'm sure even Punk knows it himself.
From what I've often heard, dude is a real life son of a bitch. If this is true, I doubt he actually realizes it.
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If Brock/Taker doesn't happen I reckon it's down to Taker simply not wanting to work with Brock. Aren't they supposed to have heat or whatever? I don't know. Brock/Taker would be beast though. I really hope it happens. If we end up with Rock/Cena II, HHH/Brock II and Taker/Punk, I'll buy it because it's Mania and all but more out of misguided loyalty and the fact that it's Mania more than anything else tbh. I guess if that happens they really will be saving all their big matches for a Mania 30 supercard in Rock/Brock and Taker/Cena. If that happened and I went to 29 I'd be pissed lol. Talk about getting shafted, haha.
You do have a choice not to buy Wrestlemania. If the card doesn't please you, buy something else. I haven't bought any WM since WM 23, for example.
But one thing I do want to know, though, how come so many people expect Punk vs Taker to be great when every time they had a match together they proved to the whole world they have just as much in-ring chemistry as Taker & Austin, which is non-existent.
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But one thing I do want to know, though, how come so many people expect Punk vs Taker to be great when every time they had a match together they proved to the whole world they have just as much in-ring chemistry as Taker & Austin, which is non-existent.
Because Taker/Punk have shown they can have a good chemistry together when given the opportunity with more match time and better use of psychology like they did in this match:
Also, with it being WrestleMania I'm confident both will want to do their best (especially Taker) to make it one hell of a show.
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If Undertaker/Jericho does not happen I will be a pissed off fella.
If Undertaker/Cena doesn't happen the WWE is missing out on a big oppurtunity.
Punk/Taker would be pretty neat but I can't see that feud happening...
Facing 2 different opponents in 4 years was probably the stupidest thing they could have done, being as he's at the end of his time and he still has many opponents left to face that would be amazing.
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Because Taker/Punk have shown they can have a good chemistry together when given the opportunity with more match time and better use of psychology like they did in this match:
Also, with it being WrestleMania I'm confident both will want to do their best (especially Taker) to make it one hell of a show.
Sorry, dude, but I wouldn't call the psychology of that match good at all. It's average at best and far from any of Taker's last 6 Wrestlemania matches.
I'd rather have Punk & Taker play it safe and go all out in technical battle like Taker/Angle at NWO 2006 or Taker/Edge at WM 24. I think their psychological chemistry simply didn't reach the level of even Taker & HHH (which was, respectively, below Taker & HBK), so maybe avoiding it would be wise.
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Different strokes I guess because I think the psychology in that match is good. Of course it's not on the level of the WrestleMania matches. It is just a TV match after all. A damn good one though. Taker being in an injured state or more "human" and Punk connivingly taking advantage of that was a good story here. Undertaker plays the weary/injured veteran so well. Punk gets to talk shit and work over the big man until the comeback begins...and ultimately fails because of the injury. I loved how Taker look "off his game" with Punk one step ahead of him at almost every turn countering several of Taker's signature moves. The snake eyes counter was pretty sweet. Punk came out of this looking great in his domination but failing in heel fashion of course by underestimating the legend; and Taker still came out looking clutch like a legend. That's good psychology and story telling for a TV main event. I can only image them doing so much more IF they had a main event at WrestleMania.
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