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Old 11-30-2012, 12:09 AM   #921 (permalink)
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But one thing I do want to know, though, how come so many people expect Punk vs Taker to be great when every time they had a match together they proved to the whole world they have just as much in-ring chemistry as Taker & Austin, which is non-existent.
Because Taker/Punk have shown they can have a good chemistry together when given the opportunity with more match time and better use of psychology like they did in this match:



Also, with it being WrestleMania I'm confident both will want to do their best (especially Taker) to make it one hell of a show.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:17 AM   #922 (permalink)
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If Undertaker/Jericho does not happen I will be a pissed off fella.

If Undertaker/Cena doesn't happen the WWE is missing out on a big oppurtunity.

Punk/Taker would be pretty neat but I can't see that feud happening...

Facing 2 different opponents in 4 years was probably the stupidest thing they could have done, being as he's at the end of his time and he still has many opponents left to face that would be amazing.
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Because Taker/Punk have shown they can have a good chemistry together when given the opportunity with more match time and better use of psychology like they did in this match:



Also, with it being WrestleMania I'm confident both will want to do their best (especially Taker) to make it one hell of a show.
Sorry, dude, but I wouldn't call the psychology of that match good at all. It's average at best and far from any of Taker's last 6 Wrestlemania matches.

I'd rather have Punk & Taker play it safe and go all out in technical battle like Taker/Angle at NWO 2006 or Taker/Edge at WM 24. I think their psychological chemistry simply didn't reach the level of even Taker & HHH (which was, respectively, below Taker & HBK), so maybe avoiding it would be wise.
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Different strokes I guess because I think the psychology in that match is good. Of course it's not on the level of the WrestleMania matches. It is just a TV match after all. A damn good one though. Taker being in an injured state or more "human" and Punk connivingly taking advantage of that was a good story here. Undertaker plays the weary/injured veteran so well. Punk gets to talk shit and work over the big man until the comeback begins...and ultimately fails because of the injury. I loved how Taker look "off his game" with Punk one step ahead of him at almost every turn countering several of Taker's signature moves. The snake eyes counter was pretty sweet. Punk came out of this looking great in his domination but failing in heel fashion of course by underestimating the legend; and Taker still came out looking clutch like a legend. That's good psychology and story telling for a TV main event. I can only image them doing so much more IF they had a main event at WrestleMania.
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Brock/Taker is a great option and honestly i would beg for it over Brock/Triple-H again.

If they go with Brock/Triple-H and Rock/Cena at WM 29, with both Trips and Cena getting revenge, it will be A HORRIBLE and predictable WM.
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Old 11-30-2012, 07:32 AM   #926 (permalink)
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If they have heat the match shouldn't happen. We all know what happens when two people who don't care for each other have a big match........ring a bell?
I don't even think they have real heat tbh. I was just bringing up the infamous rumor that they do because it's the only reason why I think a match between them wouldn't take place.

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I think it needs to be people that would benefit from a win and thus the match would be more unpredictable. And Punk is simply one of those big enough to be a good foil, but also good enough on the mic to hold a feud. Brock/Taker would be nothing more than just a match with no heat and you can see him getting a huge rub from winning therefore there is doubt that Taker is a certain win.

WM needs to stop being the showcase of the part timers and really needs to be about the next batch of main event talent. So give the spotlight to guys like Bryan, Ziggler, and Punk. I really don't wanna see HHH/Brock II, or Cena/Rock II, or Taker/Brock. They do nothing for the long term of the company and only serve to further push the up and coming talent back further. If it's just basically a showcase of the part timer, the WWE is fucked.
That makes no sense and I really don't know what you're trying to say there. The simple fact is, the streak has become SO big over the past few years that you have to be at a certain level to challenge for it. It's sort of become a double edged sword in a way because they can't use a younger guy because nobody in their right mind is going to buy it. You may buy it but the vast majority of fans won't. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that Punk isn't at the level he needs to be for a streak match against Taker at Mania. He isn't. The report says that they want a strong heel for the match so I'm not getting where Punk is coming into this either. He isn't a strong heel lol. He's a joke heel who isn't a threat to anybody and some of you think putting him in there with the Undertaker will fly? Never lol. He'll get laughed out of the arena.

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Dude, he went from taking out Diesel, Sid, and Masked Kane to Big Boss Man.

And then from Triple H & Ric Flair to A-Train.
For all your posting on this topic, you seem to have issues with the development of the streak matches tbh. Taker at 5-0 and even 10-0 is not the same as Taker at 18-0 and 20-0. At this stage of the streak, facing Punk is a HUGE step backwards and most people thinking logically will know that.

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You do have a choice not to buy Wrestlemania. If the card doesn't please you, buy something else. I haven't bought any WM since WM 23, for example.

But one thing I do want to know, though, how come so many people expect Punk vs Taker to be great when every time they had a match together they proved to the whole world they have just as much in-ring chemistry as Taker & Austin, which is non-existent.
I know I don't have to buy it. I was simply saying that no matter the card I'll probably end up getting it just because it's Wrestlemania.

My memories of Taker/Punk are not fond. Their HIAC was shit and Punk's current character whining endlessly about getting respect from Taker in a feud doesn't interest me in the slightest. If it does happen they had better bloody come up with something a lot more interesting than that because ZOMG UNDATAKAH Y DNT U RESPECTED ME IM GNA END UR STREEK EVEN THO I CNT EVEN BEATED DA RYBACK WITHOUT DA HELP OF 4 GUYS BUT IM GNA ENDED UR STREEK isn't going to fly.
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I think Punk/Taker would be great match, I just don't think it does that much for either though in terms of advancement. Punks strength on the mic in the buildup will be drained because what really can he say than the generic "GONNA END STREAK 4 DAT RESPECT!"

Punk's dominance to be ended one by The Rock and 2nd against Undertaker does him good but his heel run should atleast put someone full time over, preferably Ryback but that's gone now.
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I think a Taker-Punk match would probably be great, although I think I'd put my foot through the TV screen if I had to hear Punk referring to him as "Mark" or any of that crap. They would really have to start booking Punk much more strongly (and do so quickly) if he is to be taken seriously as a threat to the streak
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I don't think they need to really, he's been Champion for over a year, he's basically playing the Shawn Michaels heel run of 97/98 and im pretty sure Punk and Taker could draw up a match similar to the ones HBK/Taker had back then and even similar to the two classics at Mania 25 and 26.

Punk's got the shield to make atleast one run in and possibly even Brock Lesnar if they wanted.
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The day CM Punk calls the Undertaker 'Mark' on live TV is the day I officially give up on wrestling lol. Dwayne is bad, 'Phil Brooks talking to Paul Levesque' was worse. 'Mark' would just be horrific tbh.

I seem to be in the minority now on the whole Punk/Taker thing but I don't care. I don't want to see the match, I don't think Punk is credible enough no matter how hard they push him between now and then and I'd much rather have Brock/Taker. Besides, I still call BS on these 'reports.' Remember when Taker was supposed to face Kozlov? Remember when he was supposed to face JBL? Remember when he was supposed to face ZOMG ITS STING!! Remember when he was supposed to face Ted DiBiase? Remember when he was supposed to face Wade Barrett? Remember when he was supposed to face Kane? Yeah. Look how that turned out for him. Just last month they were telling us Ryback was the front runner. The dirt sheets are just starting to second guess themselves and are putting out all the options so that when one of them happens they can say we told you so.
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