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Punk has said the Streak doesn't interest him, he thinks the fact you now whose winning the match takes away the drama.

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Punk has said the Streak doesn't interest him, he thinks the fact you now whose winning the match takes away the drama.
Punk is a retard
the streak is one of the few matches left with drama, because in current WWE everyone beats everyone else and wins and losses dont matter
this is one of the few matches with something "on the line" that people care about

which is why the streak matches almost always get more dramatic crowd reactions than the rest of the card
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Punk is a retard
the streak is one of the few matches left with drama, because in current WWE everyone beats everyone else and wins and losses dont matter
this is one of the few matches with something "on the line" that people care about

which is why the streak matches almost always get more dramatic crowd reactions than the rest of the card
Stupid comment by CM Punk. Taker's streak is one of the few good things left in the WWE.
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Punk has said the Streak doesn't interest him, he thinks the fact you now whose winning the match takes away the drama.
When/where did he say this? If he did I completely disagree with him. I didn't believe Undertaker would lose to Michaels but those are two of the most dramatic performances I have ever witnessed in WrestleMania or wrestling history. The performance creates the drama in the match and if it is performed well enough it can hold up for years after. Just having an "unpredictable outcome" going into the match without the other elements doesn't make a classic match imo. Maybe momentarily intriguing because you really don't know who's going to win but that doesn't has as impactful effect years down the line.


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Punk has said the Streak doesn't interest him, he thinks the fact you now whose winning the match takes away the drama.
Where did he say that? Recently i heard he wanted to face Taker for the streak...

Anyway, well if it takes away from the drama, then Taker deserves a whole lot of credit because despite that he still puts on the most dramatic/entertaining match at Wrestlemania.

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^I think I heard that myself... a comic-con interview? I'm certain I heard it from his lips though.

He's right to an extent, but that's what makes the match even more dramatic if you can somehow find a way to make it look like you're winning. Taker's matches with HHH and HBK, especially HHH are prime examples of this. HBK's final superkick at WM26, HHH's tombstone WM27, SCM/Pedigree combo WM28... all moments that got me out of my chair and had me thinking the match was over, especially the tombstone at WM27. Moments like that are what make the matches so dramatic and why they're held in such high regard, even if they weren't (in WM27 and WM28's cases) technical masterpieces.

But hey, if Punk could have a technical masterpiece with Taker, that would be enough to make up for lack of drama. Sadly, I don't think that's possible with Taker in his current condition. Plus Taker and Punk's chemistry, based on most of their matches, sucks.

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I still don't get the "lack of drama" argument just because we know Undertaker is winning at Mania. The result is predictable but look at the responses Undertaker creates every year with his matches and how highly regarded those performances are years later. The outcome for HHH/Orton at WM25 was more unpredictable than Taker/Michaels but the latter is FAR more dramatic/exciting/thrilling or whatever you want to call it.

Edit - I think Taker/Punk's Smackdown match in Sept. 2010 shows what potential they could have a great PPV match.


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He's right in a sense in that you already know the outcome but once the match gets going, the pace picks up and you're down to the finishing stretch, it's very easy to get emotionally invested into the match and suspend any disbelief you have largely due to the story they've told and the way the matches are structured. They've created several instances in the past 4-5 years or so where you get the illusion that it's about to end so I don't think that's really a fair reasoning either.
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Edit - I think Taker/Punk's Smackdown match in Sept. 2010 shows what potential they could have a great PPV match.
Pretty much why I said for "most" of their matches. That match was awesome and arguably TV MOTY for 2010.

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Agreed. I believe they could structure a Mania match similar to that match with Taker coming into the match not 100 percent and Punk being conniving and vindictive by attacking an injury to dismantle him.


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