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Old 10-17-2012, 11:08 PM   #731 (permalink)
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If Lesnar was full-time, 100% healthy and loved everything about working as a wrestler in the WWE and would be doing it for the next 5-10 years, I would believe him ending the streak. Even then as far as destructive kayfabe power goes, Lesnar's probably legitimately the strongest guy they have full or part-time to face Taker, even with that loss to Cena which does hurt him. I'm kinda hoping though Lesnar gets his win back over Cena at SVS. Right now for SVS I'm hoping for:

WWE Title- Undertaker vs. CM Punk (Punk winning)
Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena (Lesnar winning)
World Title- Sheamus vs. Orton (Don't care who wins)
All those are awful ideas

For starters, the streak is too big. Its like commissioner Gordon described Batman in The Dark Knight Rises. The streak could have ended in WM21, that was the appropriate time. Or some time very shortly after to some huge future star. But now, its almost bigger than Undertaker himself. Punk can beat Undertaker, but not at Wrestlemania. At this point nobody can. If anything, the matches vs Shawn, Edge, Batista and Triple H just proved its more impossible than ever.

At this point, nobody can end the streak. Its just too big. Too much legacy, too much emotion, too much importance. Its the single most valuable accomplishment in WWE history at this point because of the perfect booking it got

If the WWE could book the titles like they book the streak, we might finally have a decent promotion going again

And Cena losing to Lesnar would be beyond awful. Lesnar does not need his win back, for Gods sake the man beat the fuck out of Cena and he isnt even a full time wrestler. And if he beat Cena, thats Cena's 3rd loss in a row at Wrestlemania. If he loses to Lesnar, it will be the final nail in Cena's credibility coffin. Thats it, hes done. He'll either need to be turned mega heel or just bumped down the card because every loss he takes will cripple him from that point on and even the kids will stop seeing him as a threat.

The last time Lesnar beat everyone and left the company, it left it in a shit state that some could argue we still havent recovered from. As far as Im concerned, Lesnar is here to make Vince money, hurt people, and put people over.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:58 PM   #732 (permalink)
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Default When did the WWE decide to have Undertaker be undefeated?

Does anyone know? Like was it planned from his beggining? That hed never lose at mania?? Or do u think he was 10-0 or something.. And somebody pointed out.., hey this guy is underfeated at Mania.. We should roll with this...

Well im just asking.. Does anyone know how that angle came to be?
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:00 AM   #733 (permalink)
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I think it was 5-6 if i remember correctly when the writers found out hes undefeated lol, then they carried on with it
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:02 AM   #734 (permalink)
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I think it was 5-6 if i remember correctly when the writers found out hes undefeated lol, then they carried on with it
05??? 95??
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Old 10-18-2012, 12:18 AM   #735 (permalink)
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Yeah I remember hearing the same thing.. they just kinda found out one day and went with it.
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for Gods sake the man beat the fuck out of Cena and he isnt even a full time wrestler. And if he beat Cena, thats Cena's 3rd loss in a row at Wrestlemania. If he loses to Lesnar, it will be the final nail in Cena's credibility coffin. Thats it, hes done. He'll either need to be turned mega heel or just bumped down the card because every loss he takes will cripple him from that point on and even the kids will stop seeing him as a threat.
Let's say Cena challenges The Streak at WM29, do you think another loss at WrestleMania would be detrimental to his character's credibility even if it is to The Undertaker? I'm under the assumption that Cena's in a position where a loss like that wouldn't hurt him similar to Triple H losing so often at Mania and re-entering main event programs year after year. I know you were talking about Cena/Lesnar but I'm just asking about another Cena loss at Mania in general.
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He lost to the Miz at Wrestlemania. Losing to the Undertaker after a 40+ minute battle would not hurt Cena at all.
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Honestly, I dont know at this point

WWE booking just gives me a headache at this point

But I will say this, facing Undertaker at Wrestlemania and taking him to the limit immediately elevates anyone he wrestles.

Flair, Edge, Orton, Batista, Triple H all of them looked more legit and credible AFTER wrestling Taker at Wrestlemania. Arguments could be made for Shawn and Henry too
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:16 AM   #739 (permalink)
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Does anyone know? Like was it planned from his beggining? That hed never lose at mania?? Or do u think he was 10-0 or something.. And somebody pointed out.., hey this guy is underfeated at Mania.. We should roll with this...

Well im just asking.. Does anyone know how that angle came to be?
Well, Vince noticed Taker is undefeated at WM exactly at WM 11 during his entrance:



So, maybe around that time.
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There's no such thing as "smark shit", we're all fans, and some of us just choose to like talented performers instead having meathead fetishes. I've never understood why so many people prefer big guys over smaller guys that you can relate to easier. Some people in this world must have some secret homosexual fantasies if they want to see guys that "look" good, not that there's anything wrong with that .

Also, you need to realize that wrestling is kayfabe, it's not real. So things like believability can be thrown out the window right now.
There is a such thing as smark shit (the post I am replying to right now is smark shit). Most of you know what I mean whether you want to admit or not. So called "meatheads" are no different from "talented" performers. In most cases the "meatheads" are the more talented of the two.

I can't relate to X-Pac MEV at all.

What the hell made you bring up sexual fantasies?

Yeah there is nothing wrong with that considering that humans are sexual creatures. I don't know who the hell made up shit like hetero, homo, and bisexuality anyway. It's fucking sex.

But anyway, who I like or don't like in wrestling has nothing to do with sex. What the hell made you bring up sexual fantasies?

I know wrestling is kayfabe, but there are some matches that just don't make any sense at all. For example if X-Pac MEV ever does face Brock Lesnar and gets any decent amount of time on the offensive end, I am going to laugh myself to tears. What Kevin Nash (I'll call him Big Sexy since I supposedly have sexual feelings for him) said about guys like X-Pac MEV and D Bryan is the truth. And I like D Bryan.
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