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10-11-2012, 11:33 PM
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Official Undertaker WM Streak Thread - No Other Threads
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Originally Posted by THANOS
After reading your opinion I hope Punk does challenge Taker and beats him cleanly in the middle of the ring just so I can laugh at your angst.
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Dude someone like you ending the streak is more convincing than X-Pac MEV ending it. How could you want to see that? I know you guys are desperate to see WWE turn into ROH with more fame and fortune. But seriously.. God damn, this smark shit needs to stop. CM Punk is nothing more than the result of Attitude Era fans and their discontent with the current state of wrestling. I thought you guys would have ended this phase a long time ago. Just let the WWE send X-Pac MEV back to the gymnasium or the Smackdown midcard and I promise casual fans like myself will forget that December of 2010 to now never happened. Now excuse me, while I throw up because I am thinking about him being on the cover of WWE '13 when I buy it. Nah, I'm not really throwing up, I thought that would sound funny though.
Not only does it piss me off that this guy who should be on Superstars jobbing to Santino has a large fanbase...It is also the fact that you guys want to see a match with Austin because you all think he is this generations Stone Cold. Stone Cold came off as a legit badass, CM Punk comes off as that cute fourth grader who loves to tell everyone that his teacher plays favorites and that's why students like him don't get A's. And the rest of the kids thinks he's cool and cutting edge because he is saying these kind of things in front of the teacher. And guess what? Even if he does face and defeat Austin, it won't make him be able to draw flies to shit. HBK was probably a bigger draw in his prime, and that is saying something.
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10-11-2012, 11:48 PM
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#732 (permalink)
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Shhh. My common sense is tingling.
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Re: Official Undertaker WM Streak Thread - No Other Threads
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Originally Posted by Elijah89
Dude someone like you ending the streak is more convincing than X-Pac MEV ending it. How could you want to see that? I know you guys are desperate to see WWE turn into ROH with more fame and fortune. But seriously.. God damn, this smark shit needs to stop. CM Punk is nothing more than the result of Attitude Era fans and their discontent with the current state of wrestling. I thought you guys would have ended this phase a long time ago. Just let the WWE send X-Pac MEV back to the gymnasium or the Smackdown midcard and I promise casual fans like myself will forget that December of 2010 to now never happened. Now excuse me, while I throw up because I am thinking about him being on the cover of WWE '13 when I buy it. Nah, I'm not really throwing up, I thought that would sound funny though.
Not only does it piss me off that this guy who should be on Superstars jobbing to Santino has a large fanbase...It is also the fact that you guys want to see a match with Austin because you all think he is this generations Stone Cold. Stone Cold came off as a legit badass, CM Punk comes off as that cute fourth grader who loves to tell everyone that his teacher plays favorites and that's why students like him don't get A's. And the rest of the kids thinks he's cool and cutting edge because he is saying these kind of things in front of the teacher. And guess what? Even if he does face and defeat Austin, it won't make him be able to draw flies to shit. HBK was probably a bigger draw in his prime, and that is saying something.
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There's no such thing as "smark shit", we're all fans, and some of us just choose to like talented performers instead having meathead fetishes. I've never understood why so many people prefer big guys over smaller guys that you can relate to easier. Some people in this world must have some secret homosexual fantasies if they want to see guys that "look" good, not that there's anything wrong with that  .
Also, you need to realize that wrestling is kayfabe, it's not real. So things like believability can be thrown out the window right now.
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"I mean c'mon, it's not that Cena is "controversial" or "one hell of an interesting character". The crowd is made up of two groups: those who are smart enough to boo him now, and those who will regret cheering him in a couple of years."
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10-12-2012, 01:15 AM
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#733 (permalink)
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Learning to break kayfabe
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Re: Official Undertaker WM Streak Thread - No Other Threads
I wouldn't mind seeing Taker vs. Lesnar. Though I agree with many here that the Streak shouldn't be broken.
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10-12-2012, 01:20 AM
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Re: Official Undertaker WM Streak Thread - No Other Threads
punk now?? how much more you can push a guy?? no wonder the business is shit and ratings is in the drain
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10-17-2012, 10:50 PM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: Official Undertaker WM Streak Thread - No Other Threads
With all things beings equal meaning Hogan if he returned to WWE and never left after his match with Undertaker, who would you say is a bigger threat to Undertaker's streak Hogan or Cena?
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10-17-2012, 11:08 PM
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The Man without Fear
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Re: Official Undertaker WM Streak Thread - No Other Threads
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Originally Posted by The Sandrone
If Lesnar was full-time, 100% healthy and loved everything about working as a wrestler in the WWE and would be doing it for the next 5-10 years, I would believe him ending the streak. Even then as far as destructive kayfabe power goes, Lesnar's probably legitimately the strongest guy they have full or part-time to face Taker, even with that loss to Cena which does hurt him. I'm kinda hoping though Lesnar gets his win back over Cena at SVS. Right now for SVS I'm hoping for:
WWE Title- Undertaker vs. CM Punk (Punk winning)
Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena (Lesnar winning)
World Title- Sheamus vs. Orton (Don't care who wins)
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All those are awful ideas
For starters, the streak is too big. Its like commissioner Gordon described Batman in The Dark Knight Rises. The streak could have ended in WM21, that was the appropriate time. Or some time very shortly after to some huge future star. But now, its almost bigger than Undertaker himself. Punk can beat Undertaker, but not at Wrestlemania. At this point nobody can. If anything, the matches vs Shawn, Edge, Batista and Triple H just proved its more impossible than ever.
At this point, nobody can end the streak. Its just too big. Too much legacy, too much emotion, too much importance. Its the single most valuable accomplishment in WWE history at this point because of the perfect booking it got
If the WWE could book the titles like they book the streak, we might finally have a decent promotion going again
And Cena losing to Lesnar would be beyond awful. Lesnar does not need his win back, for Gods sake the man beat the fuck out of Cena and he isnt even a full time wrestler. And if he beat Cena, thats Cena's 3rd loss in a row at Wrestlemania. If he loses to Lesnar, it will be the final nail in Cena's credibility coffin. Thats it, hes done. He'll either need to be turned mega heel or just bumped down the card because every loss he takes will cripple him from that point on and even the kids will stop seeing him as a threat.
The last time Lesnar beat everyone and left the company, it left it in a shit state that some could argue we still havent recovered from. As far as Im concerned, Lesnar is here to make Vince money, hurt people, and put people over.
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10-17-2012, 11:58 PM
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Learning to break kayfabe
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When did the WWE decide to have Undertaker be undefeated?
Does anyone know? Like was it planned from his beggining? That hed never lose at mania?? Or do u think he was 10-0 or something.. And somebody pointed out.., hey this guy is underfeated at Mania.. We should roll with this...
Well im just asking.. Does anyone know how that angle came to be?
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10-18-2012, 12:00 AM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: When did the WWE decide to have Undertakernbe undefeated?
I think it was 5-6 if i remember correctly when the writers found out hes undefeated lol, then they carried on with it
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10-18-2012, 12:02 AM
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Learning to break kayfabe
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Re: When did the WWE decide to have Undertakernbe undefeated?
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Originally Posted by robass83
I think it was 5-6 if i remember correctly when the writers found out hes undefeated lol, then they carried on with it
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05??? 95??
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10-18-2012, 12:18 AM
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#740 (permalink)
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: When did the WWE decide to have Undertaker be undefeated?
Yeah I remember hearing the same thing.. they just kinda found out one day and went with it.
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