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Sure, there could be a clause in his contract. But if there is none I don't see any reasons he could be sued on.

And what I meant about the safety reasons was that after Lesnar hurts or KO's Undertaker, no matter if it was on purpose or not, he could claim it was a mistake and he pinned 'Taker because he couldn't continue (KO, Sid like leg break, or whatever).
Even then, as soon as he goes backstage he'd get jumped by everyone on the roster so I don't think he's that stupid. Do you think Lesnar is going to try and fuck up arguably the GOAT wrestler in his last match ever and probably the most respected wrestler ever as well? I don't see it. Besides at this point, Lesnar's most likely opponent is HHH/Mayweather and Taker's is Orton to me
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Well, it is not like it would be the first time Lesnar and WWE meet each other in a court room. They did this over the course of several years.

And it's not like Lesnar and Taker are friends, atleast they didn't use to be. For example


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Plus, there are several interviews in which Lesnar didn't talk very positively about WWE.

Anyway, I just thought Lesnar shooting on Taker at WM is quite an interesting thought.
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Well, it is not like it would be the first time Lesnar and WWE meet each other in a court room. They did this over the course of several years.

And it's not like Lesnar and Taker are friends, atleast they didn't use to be. For example


starting at the 6 minute mark



Plus, there are several interviews in which Lesnar didn't talk very positively about WWE.

Anyway, I just thought Lesnar shooting on Taker at WM is quite an interesting thought.
I get that, but still. Let's say Lesnar lays Taker out cold and ruins the show. Don't you think that as soon as he steps backstage he's getting the shit beat out of him by everyone on the roster? Lesnar is a tough guy, but he isn't fighting off the entire, pissed off, locker room. I would laugh my ass off if he didn't, but as soon as he stepped backstage he'd be fearing for his life
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This is slightly off topic, but I am curious:
I am not very familiar with the US law in this situation, but on what reasons could they sue Lesnar? There are tons of instances in which one wrestler gets hurt and/or knocked out. He could argue he pinned Undertaker for safety reasons!?
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Sure, there could be a clause in his contract. But if there is none I don't see any reasons he could be sued on.

And what I meant about the safety reasons was that after Lesnar hurts or KO's Undertaker, no matter if it was on purpose or not, he could claim it was a mistake and he pinned 'Taker because he couldn't continue (KO, Sid like leg break, or whatever).
The scenario presented by the question is that Lesnar breaks Taker's arm for real and pins him, which will be taped in videos all over the world. It's kinda hard to say it's Taker's fault when Lesnar starts it. Unless Lesnar somehow makes it look like Taker was going to injure him for real in front of dozens of live audience, he's not getting out of it without a scratch.

And on what grounds WWE can sue Lesnar? Violation of contract, endangering other performers, and dozens of other lawsuits I'm sure WWE will think of.

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Brock/HHH w/ Mayweather No DQ
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Taker/Orton
Punk/Bryan

What I'm hoping to happen is everything there except Brock/Mayweather instead of Brock/HHH.
Taker has had enough WM rematches as it is. Let's hope Sting accepts WWE's offer once his contract ends this December.

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Even then, as soon as he goes backstage he'd get jumped by everyone on the roster so I don't think he's that stupid. Do you think Lesnar is going to try and fuck up arguably the GOAT wrestler in his last match ever and probably the most respected wrestler ever as well? I don't see it. Besides at this point, Lesnar's most likely opponent is HHH/Mayweather and Taker's is Orton to me
Oh, crap, like I said, no more rematch please. Hell, I can live with Taker/Bryan or Taker/Punk or even Taker/Sheamus (Sheamus wants this match), as long as it's not another WM rematch. I think enough is enough.

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Well, it is not like it would be the first time Lesnar and WWE meet each other in a court room. They did this over the course of several years.

And it's not like Lesnar and Taker are friends, atleast they didn't use to be. For example


starting at the 6 minute mark

Plus, there are several interviews in which Lesnar didn't talk very positively about WWE.

Anyway, I just thought Lesnar shooting on Taker at WM is quite an interesting thought.
What we didn't count is what if Taker fight backs? It's a well know fact Taker is a real-life tough guy (KO-ing Angle in 3 seconds, anyone?)

What if Taker escapes the kimura and locks Lesnar in Gogoplata for real?

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I get that, but still. Let's say Lesnar lays Taker out cold and ruins the show. Don't you think that as soon as he steps backstage he's getting the shit beat out of him by everyone on the roster? Lesnar is a tough guy, but he isn't fighting off the entire, pissed off, locker room. I would laugh my ass off if he didn't, but as soon as he stepped backstage he'd be fearing for his life
It's not just backstage, once the crowds notice something is off, I doubt they will let an MMA fighter who always disses WWE just casually ends The Streak and runs for his life. It's not just Lesnar vs the entire backstage, it's Lesnar vs the entire MetLife Stadium.

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What we didn't count is what if Taker fight backs? It's a well know fact Taker is a real-life tough guy (KO-ing Angle in 3 seconds, anyone?)

What if Taker escapes the kimura and locks Lesnar in Gogoplata for real?
I am not disputing that Taker is one hell of a tough guy, but I think it is a little bit of a far stretch to give a 50 something year old, physically almost broken down man any chance in a real fight against the former UFC Heavyweight Champion in very good shape. But I'll guess we will never find out.



Unless Dana White books Mark Callaway vs. Brock Lesnar at UFC 200

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I am not disputing that Taker is one hell of a tough guy, but I think it is a little bit of a far stretch to give a 50 something year old, physically almost broken down man any chance in a real fight against the former UFC Heavyweight Champion in very good shape. But I'll guess we will never find out.



Unless Dana White books Mark Callaway vs. Brock Lesnar at UFC 200

I would watch that
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I know wikipedia says 47 or something like that, but he has been in his 40s for the last 15 years I think. No disrespect to one of the GOAT, but come on.
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I am not disputing that Taker is one hell of a tough guy, but I think it is a little bit of a far stretch to give a 50 something year old, physically almost broken down man any chance in a real fight against the former UFC Heavyweight Champion in very good shape. But I'll guess we will never find out.

Unless Dana White books Mark Callaway vs. Brock Lesnar at UFC 200

I would watch that
Well, underestimating Taker just because he's an old guy won't do Bork any good. Kay, he's a former UFC Champion, but he's human. There are spots, no matter how strong a human is, that can be hurt anytime.

what if during the kimura lock, since Lesnar goes dirty, Taker decides to do the same and pokes Lesnar eye with his free hand or twist his left ear with his free hand (and it's easy to remove someone's ear) or hit Bork's weak stomach for real? Or if he decides to grab Bork by the balls?

And it's ridiculous how people consider Taker to be as old as Hogan & Flair when he's younger than Booker T & Austin (the latter having been favored for a dream match for years, apparently).
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I can't see Taker facing anyone but Lesnar at Mania. Hoping it's some kind of career match, that'd be cool and a good way to finally write Lesnar out of the product.


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