[NoLeafClover]

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

Are you kidding me?

Lesnar has turned into a one dimensional bore fest... his current shoot style of offense doesn't mesh well at all with the current roster of talent. Both Brock vs Cena and Brock vs HHH were some of the most overhyped, boring matches of their respective pay-per-views because suddenly Brock's 'forgotten' half of his move set to appease the MMA fans out there... if I wanted to watch MMA I'd go watch UFC or strikeforce, he either needs to get with the 'entertaining' part of sports entertainment or go back to getting his fights stopped and his ass beat over in one of the MMA circuits.

Lesnar vs Taker would almost be tragic. If people are expecting to see MMA style brawl in Taker vs Lesnar, the only thing they will receive is an upset. Did anyone here even watch the Summerslam match? half an hour of boring ass punches, the old Lesnar was technical and enjoyable to watch - belly to bellys, snap suplexes, german suplexes, gutbusters, powerbombs, spinebusters, powerslams the list goes on he used to go out and put on a show, now he's just plain boring with shoulder thrusts and pretend punches for a whole match.

And that means Taker has to carry him to a good match. And if WM 9, 11, 15, 19, and 22 tell us anything, it's that Taker is bad at carrying stiff opponents.

Though, I have no doubt so many people will still worship Taker/Lesnar at WM 29 even though it may be mediocre & one sided like their No Mercy 2002 outing (one of the best HIAC match ever my ass!).

If Lesnar/Taker wants to be a classic, Lesnar has to bring his old style back. That way, we can see rapid paced big man vs big man match like the ones Taker had at WM 12, 14, and 23.

I have to say, I agree 100%. I have no interest in seeing Taker/Lesnar. None at all. I'll disagree with you on the point of Cena/Lesnar...that match was very good, but HHH/Lesnar was boring and one dimensional. It tried to be a brawl, and a shoot style fight, but fell short, but never really became the "fight" that it was billed as.

At this stage in Taker career, he shouldn't be putting on a "fight" at Wrestlemania with Lesnar. He should be putting on another top notch, show stealing match.

[The Pied Piper]

Originally Posted by TaylorFitz

I hate to break it to you but it would appear that you have terrible taste in wrestling.

Oh, I'm sorry if I upset you by not treating Lesnar like the faultless ultra demi-god most of IWC apparently do.

Originally Posted by Bad Blood

Undertaker and Lesnar have a track record on working great matches with each other can do again

Not if Lesnar stays as stiff as Mark Henry.

Originally Posted by zep81

I do wonder if Lesnar bringing his UFC style this time is his decision or Vince's tbh, like you say, back in the day he was awesome, had a great, powerful moveset, wether he wants to do all that now and/or take bumps im not sure, i can't see it changing for the remainder of his current WWE run.

I do wish he'd mix it up more, there was a glimpse of that in the HHH match,

Saying that, i enjoyed Cena/Lesnar

No offense, so that means as long as Lesnar dominates Undertaker for 99% of the match and Undertaker pulls a last minute Tombstone to seal the victory, you'll like Taker/Lesnar?

Originally Posted by NoLeafClover

I have to say, I agree 100%. I have no interest in seeing Taker/Lesnar. None at all. I'll disagree with you on the point of Cena/Lesnar...that match was very good, but HHH/Lesnar was boring and one dimensional.

I profoundly believe Cena/Lesnar is just as bad as HHH/Lesnar.

Seriously, Cena/Lesnar has everything I hate from Taker/Lesnar at No Mercy 2002. It had a decent back and forth first half but for the second half, it was basically a squash match with Lesnar destroying Taker, slow paced too. But many people I know consider it to be one of the, if not, the greatest HIAC match of all time. And for the life of me, I don't think I can ever decipher the reason why so many people jerk off over Lesnar winning a squash match. It's the same formula with Cena/Lesnar only with Lesnar suddenly losing in the end for no reason.

I admit Lesnar had better matches with people who can really follow his movements and trade techniques with him like Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit, but seriously, his matches with Hogan, Taker, Cena, Rock, and HHH are overrated and praised only because he looked dominant throughout, that's all.

If WWE do Taker/Lesnar with the way Lesnar is now, I have no doubt it will be Taker's worst WM match ever since WM 22 with Henry.

But if Lesnar is allowed & able to channel his old-self, we might be getting a mix of two classic, Taker/Angle at No Way Out 2006 & Taker/Batista at WM 23, which can only mean MOTY.

But since there's no sign pointing to that as of now, I'll side with the former.

Originally Posted by NoLeafClover

It tried to be a brawl, and a shoot style fight, but fell short, but never really became the "fight" that it was billed as.

Yet so many people still regard it as MOTN. Goes to show u how far many people in IWC are willing to suck Lesnar's dick.

Originally Posted by NoLeafClover

At this stage in Taker career, he shouldn't be putting on a "fight" at Wrestlemania with Lesnar. He should be putting on another top notch, show stealing match.

Oh, don't worry. Even if the match turns mediocre, I'm sure many people in IWC will still praise it simply because it has Lesnar, one of the most beloved IWC Darlings of all time, in it.

[Huganomics]

God forbid some people enjoy a match that you didn't like.

[Bad Blood]

What does everyone think of Taker v Cena wm? Or maybe Taker v Punk?

[The Pied Piper]

Originally Posted by Huganomics

God forbid some people enjoy a match that you didn't like.

Originally Posted by Bad Blood

What does everyone think of Taker v Cena wm? Or maybe Taker v Punk?

Taker vs Punk can only be good if Punk is allowed to utilize all his technical wrestling skills, in which we'll see a match ala Taker/Bret at Summerslam 1997, Taker/Angle at No Way Out 2006, and Taker/Edge at Wrestlemania 24, which is good.

Taker vs Cena is the biggest draw possible ATM because, let's face it, no way Vince will let part timers like Rock or Lesnar to end The Streak. But Cena? He's an entirely different ball game.

[Bad Blood]

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

Taker vs Punk can only be good if Punk is allowed to utilize all his technical wrestling skills, in which we'll see a match ala Taker/Bret at Summerslam 1997, Taker/Angle at No Way Out 2006, and Taker/Edge at Wrestlemania 24, which is good.

Taker vs Cena is the biggest draw possible ATM because, let's face it, no way Vince will let part timers like Rock or Lesnar to end The Streak. But Cena? He's an entirely different ball game.

If Cena world with Undertaker can not see him ending the streak

[Proc]

This obviously is a purely hypothetical thought going through my head. It is not going to happen, but interesting to think about it.

Lesnar and Undertaker face each other at WrestleMania. Lesnar's contract is done and he thinks to himself "Fuck 'Taker and this fake shit" and shoots on Undertaker in the middle of the ring during the match. For example let's say he legit locks a storyline Kimura on his arm and breaks it in the middle of the ring in a split second.

Or he just knocks him out legit and goes for the cover. If the ref counts only to 2, claiming the K.O.'ed Undertaker would have gotten the shoulder up, Lesnar just goes for the cover again forcing the ref to count to 3.

The important thing in my scenario is that there is no chance for a Daniel-Puder-like quick count. So, what would happen? Lesnar breaks the streak clean in the middle of the ring?

[screw you mcmahon]

Originally Posted by The Pied Piper

Taker vs Punk can only be good if Punk is allowed to utilize all his technical wrestling skills, in which we'll see a match ala Taker/Bret at Summerslam 1997, Taker/Angle at No Way Out 2006, and Taker/Edge at Wrestlemania 24, which is good.

Taker vs Cena is the biggest draw possible ATM because, let's face it, no way Vince will let part timers like Rock or Lesnar to end The Streak. But Cena? He's an entirely different ball game.

Well I would have to disagree on that point, because Vince almost never thinks along with fans. Everyone thought Cena would beat Rock at WM 28, didn't happen. We all thought Angle would fight Taker at WM 22, didn't happen. We all thought Jericho (or a lot of us at least) would win the 2012 RR, didn't happen. Would it surprise me if Taker's streak ended of course it would, but point being is that it wouldn't really surprise me anymore or less if Vince had someone like Austin or Rock end the streak as opposed to Cena, because let's face it Vince is capable of anything or everything at any time and isn't thinking along the lines of how everyone else thinks otherwise he wouldn't do matches such as Bossman vs. Taker at WM 15 which no one at the time thought he could be that dumb to pass over for Mankind vs. Undertaker after they had one of the greatest hell in the cell matches of all time the year before. Just because a guy like an Austin for example would come in part time doesn't mean that Vince doesn't play favorites with guys whom he considers to have a closest relationship with, because just like HHH, Mcmahon always gets what he wants when he wants and he what he really wants is for Bossman to stick his knife stick in his mouth.

[The Pied Piper]

Originally Posted by Proc

This obviously is a purely hypothetical thought going through my head. It is not going to happen, but interesting to think about it.

Lesnar and Undertaker face each other at WrestleMania. Lesnar's contract is done and he thinks to himself "Fuck 'Taker and this fake shit" and shoots on Undertaker in the middle of the ring during the match. For example let's say he legit locks a storyline Kimura on his arm and breaks it in the middle of the ring in a split second.

Or he just knocks him out legit and goes for the cover. If the ref counts only to 2, claiming the K.O.'ed Undertaker would have gotten the shoulder up, Lesnar just goes for the cover again forcing the ref to count to 3.

The important thing in my scenario is that there is no chance for a Daniel-Puder-like quick count. So, what would happen? Lesnar breaks the streak clean in the middle of the ring?

What would happen, aside from various lawsuits that will bankrupt Lesnar & send him to jail if he cannot pay, is many Undertaker fans wanting to hurt Lesnar bad.

Originally Posted by Bad Blood

If Cena world with Undertaker can not see him ending the streak

I'm not saying Cena'll end the Streak, I'm just saying it's possible.

Originally Posted by screw you mcmahon

Well I would have to disagree on that point, because Vince almost never thinks along with fans. Everyone thought Cena would beat Rock at WM 28, didn't happen. We all thought Angle would fight Taker at WM 22, didn't happen. We all thought Jericho (or a lot of us at least) would win the 2012 RR, didn't happen. Would it surprise me if Taker's streak ended of course it would, but point being is that it wouldn't really surprise me anymore or less if Vince had someone like Austin or Rock end the streak as opposed to Cena, because let's face it Vince is capable of anything or everything at any time and isn't thinking along the lines of how everyone else thinks otherwise he wouldn't do matches such as Bossman vs. Taker at WM 15 which no one at the time thought he could be that dumb to pass over for Mankind vs. Undertaker after they had one of the greatest hell in the cell matches of all time the year before. Just because a guy like an Austin for example would come in part time doesn't mean that Vince doesn't play favorites with guys whom he considers to have a closest relationship with, because just like HHH, Mcmahon always gets what he wants when he wants and he what he really wants is for Bossman to stick his knife stick in his mouth.

While what you said is true that Vince is a brainless lunatic, none of what u said had anything to do with why the Streak would be ended by Brock Lesnar or The Rock. Vince is very protective of The Streak and was the first man to shoot down Stephanie's idea for The Streak to be ended by Triple H at WM 17 eleven years ago.

And it's well known that in the current state of WWE, Vince, Steph, and HHH are on agreement that The Streak should never be broken by anyone. that's why, for the life of me, I don't think those 3 will ever let a part-timer end The Streak.

[Ether]

Originally Posted by Proc

This obviously is a purely hypothetical thought going through my head. It is not going to happen, but interesting to think about it.

Lesnar and Undertaker face each other at WrestleMania. Lesnar's contract is done and he thinks to himself "Fuck 'Taker and this fake shit" and shoots on Undertaker in the middle of the ring during the match. For example let's say he legit locks a storyline Kimura on his arm and breaks it in the middle of the ring in a split second.

Or he just knocks him out legit and goes for the cover. If the ref counts only to 2, claiming the K.O.'ed Undertaker would have gotten the shoulder up, Lesnar just goes for the cover again forcing the ref to count to 3.

The important thing in my scenario is that there is no chance for a Daniel-Puder-like quick count. So, what would happen? Lesnar breaks the streak clean in the middle of the ring?

I'd laugh my ass off if this happens, but as the above poster says Lesnar would get raped by lawsuits.