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post #501 of 2307 (permalink) Old 08-16-2012, 02:37 PM
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Re: How can they make it seem like The Streak is in jepody again?

a heel turn would work for sure. Like Austin turning heel on Rock there 2nd match i think.

You have babyface Cena vs Undertaker and during the match Cena turns heel say he sides with Johnny Ace or a heel figure or just bashes Taker with a chair while the ref is down and the crowd would instantly start booing him and expect that he would win with that heel turn.

Other than that i always thought it would be funny to have past wrestlers who lost to Taker to come in hit their finisher on him and leave. Like have HHH hit the Pedigree, Kane come in, Show, Henry etc and leave Taker laying for a minute.


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Re: How can they make it seem like The Streak is in jepody again?

Simple, build a new guy, say like Ryback who is either unstoppable or a wonderful talent at MMA level (you can even get a MMA guy to join WWE and use this for a push like Tito Ortiz) and the match in the WM is a double count out or something which means either of them won and in the next WM, Undertaker loses clean to the superior athlete/wrestler who has already won the world title within the year using the initial push successfully defending it.

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Re: Official Undertaker WM Streak Thread - No Other Threads

I wish people would stop saying a new guy should beat him. I dont see that happening myself for the reasons I'm about to go into...

At the moment we have a very elite set of wrestlers who are the very best of the best. In terms of Star Power, Drawining Ability and Dominance in the Ring...

I'm talking about:

HHH
Rock
Lesnar
Taker

And to a lesser extent... Cena...

And the sad thing is 4 of those 5 are only showing up a few times a year to perform in ring.

You then have the guys who are main eventers just under those guys. Guys who are still over as f*** but that's more down to the push they've recieved rather than actually having any major drawing ability. I'm not saying they don't draw... but compared to the guys above the guys below aren't anywhere near them in terms of star power and drawing ability.

Orton
Punk
Sheamus

And finally you have the main eventers who are either massively over, are built as being dominant or have had nice pushes but again they don't really have massive amount of star power or drawing ability.

Del Rio
Big Show
Bryan

The scary thing is the guys at the very top are rarely here and when they do come they prettymuch over shadow everything else the guys on the other two tiers do. This isn't sustainable because when they do leave it's going to leave a massive gap in terms of star power and drawing ability.

We need some more guys in that top tier and the best way to do that is to give one of the guys in the second tier the win to elevate them to the top. The benefit to this is that then they can help put over many more people in the coming years. Either by elevating new guys quickly or putting over the guys in the 3rd tier into the second tier with decent feuds.

Should you give Taker's streak to a relatively unknown person then in my opinion the only person it helps out is the person who ends the streak. There isn't much scope for that person to then help get other people over. It'll be all about how that guy is being pushed rather than thinking "ok we have this super how heel who just beat Taker, how can we use this to get other people over". When Taker and the Streak goes arguably we lose the biggest draw the WWE currently has. WWE need to find a replacement for this and that's not going to be at the hands of someone like Rhodes or Wade.

Anyway opinions is that it's either Punk or Cena who are going to end it if it does happen. It's not going to be wasted on a new guy who will only personally get a boost and not be able to put anyone else over. IMO The guy who beats Taker needs to replace him as the top draw for WWE. This isn't going to be some one like Rhodes or Barrett.


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Re: Undertaker vs. Psycho Sid - Wrestlemania 13

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Thought it was pretty good, but Bret Harts interference kinda got annoying. Still solid though.

I thought the Bret interference was good. Sowing the seeds for his heel turn plus he was then recently involved in angles with Sid and Taker so it made sense.

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Re: Official Undertaker WM Streak Thread - No Other Threads

Having just watched some of Undertakers WM matches on youtube, I've decided, the streak, is the best thing in wrestling. It's so good seeing such a legend, turn up once a year, and win every time, with the crowd going crazy for him.

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Overall it was nice to see Undertaker win the world championship

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Re: Undertaker vs. Psycho Sid - Wrestlemania 13

I hate this match, but I don't blame either guy.

The match had ZERO build up. It was just a mess from the beginning with the title constantly changing hands to whether or not Michaels was going to be there to the Rumble win for Austin being erased. It was clear they had no definitive direction in mind and they just slapped this together just to give fans an Undertaker win.

Because of that, the match was kind of boring and felt like it had no business being at the top of a Wrestlemania card and both guys pretty much got stuck in a bad position, in addition to having to follow the outstanding Bret/Austin match.

The one thing this match had going for it, an Undertaker title win, was tainted because they had to have Bret help Taker win for some reason. So the fans wait six years for Taker to win the title again and you can't even let him do it clean? That decision still floors me.

Looking back on it all, Taker should have won the Rumble, Sid never should have lost the belt to Shawn and head into Wrestlemania with two wins over Shawn & Bret under his belt and a lot of credibility. But everything was just fucked up, probably due to the famous "I lost my Smile" bit from Shawn, ha ha.

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I hate this match, but I don't blame either guy.

The match had ZERO build up. It was just a mess from the beginning with the title constantly changing hands to whether or not Michaels was going to be there to the Rumble win for Austin being erased. It was clear they had no definitive direction in mind and they just slapped this together just to give fans an Undertaker win.

Because of that, the match was kind of boring and felt like it had no business being at the top of a Wrestlemania card and both guys pretty much got stuck in a bad position, in addition to having to follow the outstanding Bret/Austin match.

The one thing this match had going for it, an Undertaker title win, was tainted because they had to have Bret help Taker win for some reason. So the fans wait six years for Taker to win the title again and you can't even let him do it clean? That decision still floors me.

Looking back on it all, Taker should have won the Rumble, Sid never should have lost the belt to Shawn and head into Wrestlemania with two wins over Shawn & Bret under his belt and a lot of credibility. But everything was just fucked up, probably due to the famous "I lost my Smile" bit from Shawn, ha ha.
I really did not think the match was bad. It was basic but still good and had fans interested

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Re: How can they make it seem like The Streak is in jepody again?

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If Cena faces Rock again and wins then goes after the streak yes. Also Cena has said multiple times that he would like to end the streak.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it just this year after Wrestlemania 28 rolled up when Cena said he does not ever want to have anything to do with The Streak?
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Re: Official Undertaker WM Streak Thread - No Other Threads

I would be shocked if Undertaker doesn't fight with Lesnar at Mania (for revenge)
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