Originally Posted by ninealevyn
Obviously, we know Undertaker is 20-0 at Wrestlemania, but I want to know what was the storyline reasoning for the matches taking place. Like why did Undertaker face Jimmy Snuka? Why did he face Bundy and not DiBiase? And overall what were some of both the Kayfabe and real life reasons for some of these matches. Why at Mania 22 didn't they go with Taker vs Angle? It was foreshadowed at the rumble and they both wanted to do it. Couldn't they've easily had Orton get the belt and face Mysterio 1 on 1. Who all at different points were legitimately considered to break the streak? I've heard Bundy, Henry and Batista all were strongly considered. At Wrestemania 16 had he not been injured who would've he faced. Was Nathan Jones ever really've supposed to've been in that match? Why at Mania 24 did they claim Edge hadn't lost at Mania before when he lost the year prior? Was it because he was taken out of the match or because he eventually ended up with MITB anyway or was to be streak vs streak? Who were other rumored opponents at various points? basically any info regarding the streak would be helpful.
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Hm, interesting. These are just some of the rumors I know & learn over the years. Some of them are true and maybe some of them are not. Hope this helps.
1. For the first 15 years of The Streak, Vince focused on pushing big men wrestlers more than anything. He had believed working with The Undertaker, especially at Wrestlemania, would do nothing but pushing their career to a higher level. But the result tended to hurt The Streak & Vince's hope more often that not:
- Instead of pitting The Undertaker against the likes of Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Mr. Perfect, or Razor Ramon at Wrestlemania 9, Vince pit him against Giant Gonzales, both to make a huge attraction match and pushed Giant Gonzales's status as a performer. The match ended up being what many people consider to be The Undertaker's worst match of all time, and Gonzales vanished as quickly as he rose.
- Instead of pitting The Undertaker against the likes of Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Bam Bam Bigelow, or Ted DiBiase Sr. at Wrestlemania 11, Vince pit him against the returning & aging King Kong Bundy, again to re-push Bundy's image in front of the audience at that time. It failed, however, cause the aging Bundy was unable to work like he used to and quickly released not long after that bout. This also answers your question why we didn't have Ted/Taker.
- Instead of pitting The Undertaker against the likes of Mankind at Wrestlemania 15, Vince pit him against the returning & aging Big Boss Man, hoping a Hell In A Cell match with The Undertaker would do wonders for Boss Man like it did to Mankind. It did nothing whatsoever, nonetheless. The match is commonly called the worst HIAC of all time, even The Undertaker bemoaned the fact working with Boss Man was like building titanic. In the end, Boss Man's career never took off and Mankind remains the only 1 of Undertaker's 3 biggest rivals in his career he never fought at Wrestlemania (the other two being Kane & HBK, whom both he fought twice).
- Instead of pitting The Undertaker against the likes of Eddie Guerrero or Rob Van Dam at Wrestlemania 19, Vince pit him against A-Train with Nathan Jones as possible partner, for the umpteenth time because he believed doing so would boost Jones' and A-Train's career. This is one of the only few matches in his career where The Undertaker objected to doing, but Vince begged for him to do this favor because he was sure of the result. We all know how it ended.
- I think by now it's quite famous why Taker vs Angle at WM 22 never happened. It was planned, but Taker suggested for Angle to end The Streak. Vince went paranoid and instead of simply saying "no" to Taker's idea, Vince wrapped up the whole thing and booked the worst Casket match ever. Although, unlike his 4 predecessors, Henry seemed like he has made himself worthy of being in The Streak in the years that followed his career. But the case can still be made that he never quite reached Angle's level.
And so, it was around this time The Streak finally became a big deal. And I think Vincej ust realized one third of The Streak is filled with failures, which is why from Wrestlemania 23 until now, Taker no longer faced any low mid-carder at Wrestlemania.
2. Like u said, Bundy, Orton, and Batista were considered to end The Streak. Some other instances:
- Stephanie pitched the idea of Triple H ending The Streak at Wrestlemania X-7, but Vince objected becaus ehe believed The Streak could profit both the company and The Undertaker by being alive.
- Kane was offered to end The Streak at WM 20 by Undertaker himself, but refused.
- Henry was considered to end The Streak too at WM 22 with the help of Khali.
3. Nathan Jones was supposed to be in tag match at Wrestlemania 19, but several tests pre-WM 19 showed him to be a horrible and dangerous worker, which is why he was pulled and booked to help Taker defeated Big Show & A-Train. Even then, he almost missed kicking Big Show, who was at the size of a truck, outside the ring.
4. Yes, Edge didn't submit or get pinned at WM 24, that's why he was considered unbeaten.
5. If Taker wasn't injured at WM 16, rumor has it he would have teamed up with Kane to take on X-Pac & Road Dogg. Some other sources mentioned had Austin also been healthy, Austin vs Taker with Taker winning might have happened.
6. Other than the rumored matches I've listed above, some of the rumored opponents for The Streak were:
- Snitsky & Heidenrich at WM 21.
- Umaga at WM 23.
- Big Daddy V at WM 24.
- Kozlov at WM 25.
- Wade Barret at WM 27, even Taker agreed to do it until HHH shot down the idea and explained a rematch between himself and Taker would be more beneficial.
Originally Posted by MR.BOTCHAMANIA
I wonder what year they realised undertaker even had a streak.
Originally Posted by TomasThunder619
I read somewhere, that it was around 1998-1999.
Originally Posted by ARNY!!!
I know they mentioned the streak in his match against Sid, may have mentioned it the year before against Diesel.
Originally Posted by Bloodbath
WM21 against Orton was the first time they used the streak as a storyline, but I think the announcers started to acknowledge it when the fans brought their "9-0" signs to WM17. It may have been earlier though, I'm not sure.
The Streak was first noted by Vince McMahon on the commentary table at Wrestlemania 11 during The Undertaker's entrance by saying "The man who has never lost at Wrestlemania, The Undertaker".