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05-30-2012, 06:29 PM
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I ATE THE BONES
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Re: Report: Current plans for The Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 29.
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Originally Posted by AthenaMark
Great match? Without any stipulations, it's gonna be a textbook match if anything. The ONLY reason Taker/Cripple H was good this year was because it was padded..it didn't sell itself. It needed "End of an Era" labels...it needed little Shawn Michaels to come out of hiding from Texas for once...it needed weapons and Hell in a Cell to sell it. A TRUE draw at WM doesn't need any of that shit.
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Why not just acknowledge the match for being really good rather than discouraging it?
People wanted Trips/Taker in a cell and we got it and it was awesome. Who cares if it was a gimmick match? Some of the best matches in wrestling have had gimmicks.
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05-30-2012, 06:31 PM
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#222 (permalink)
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Braden Walker
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Re: Report: Current plans for The Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 29.
They can't make this an interesting match anymore. If they had done things the right way and had Lesnar go undefeated and destroy everyone from now until WrestleMania it would have worked. People would have bought into Lesnar being a threat to Taker's WM streak. Now? No thank you. I'd rather just see a regular arrogant heel Lesnar vs. The Rock.
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05-30-2012, 06:32 PM
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Learning to break kayfabe
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Re: Report: Current plans for The Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 29.
Dont mind this too much, if they are saving Cena v Taker for Mania 30 then I cant really see anyone else who could take on taker...other then maybe Rock.
But im almost certain we will be set up for Cena Rock 2, with sadly a Cena win
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05-30-2012, 06:32 PM
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Wheel Man for SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Report: Current plans for The Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 29.
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Originally Posted by AthenaMark
It's DEFINITELY not bigger than Rock/Lesnar II...all of those Cena matches never make money anyway. He's not a PPV draw so that doesn't matter. Lesnar vs Taker is not gonna sell out that arena next year...I guarantee it.
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It makes way more sense than Rock/Lesnar II booking wise.
Taker/Brock - Picture this: Brock has beaten all of the top faces in WWE. Cena (we'll assume he get's his win back), Orton, HHH, Punk. He's beaten them all. For him, only one thing stands in the way of him proving to all that the WWE is just a big a joke as he said it was: the streak. The only man left for him to destroy is the man who one night a year is near invincible. Can he do it? Can he destroy the last sacred thing left in the WWE? Or will he end the streak and, potentially, WWE itself?
That's an easy match to sell.
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Rock/Brock II - Picture this: Brock has beaten all of the top faces in WWE. Cena (we'll assume he get's his win back), Orton, HHH, Punk. He's beaten them all. All of them except for the Rock, who has returned from Hollywood to........make gay jokes about Brock.
Seriously though, Brock's WM match needs to be invincilbe monster vs. invincible monster, and Taker/Brock will do that better than just about any WM match in history. Rock, for all that he is (and he is a lot of things, one of which is being one of the most charismatic guys in history), he's never been this unstoppable fucking asskicking force of nature. As for Rock/Brock, how do you hype that match? You can't do all the wacky back and forth ala Rock/Cena. If Brock's talking about people shit their pants and that he doesn't give a fuck about WWE because he's a former UFC champ and he can whip anyone's ass, what does Rock do in that angle? Throw a Rock Concert and sing songs about Brock being ugly? That doesn't mesh well, imo.
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05-30-2012, 06:34 PM
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Acknowledged by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Report: Current plans for The Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 29.
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Not happening. If Lesnar had a streak and was still unstoppable? sure, this match will do big business. But now it's just another big match. Rock is wrestling Brock or Taker at WM29.
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Came here to say this,they already killed Brock/Taker just so they could put that piece of trash cena over so no that feud is dead Ill go with Brock/Rock or Rock/Taker,leaving Cena/Brock for the WWE title maybe?
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05-30-2012, 06:38 PM
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GET MY BAGS
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Re: Report: Current plans for The Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 29.
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Taker/Brock - Picture this: Brock has beaten all of the top faces in WWE. Cena (we'll assume he get's his win back), Orton, HHH, Punk. He's beaten them all. For him, only one thing stands in the way of him proving to all that the WWE is just a big a joke as he said it was: the streak. The only man left for him to destroy is the man who one night a year is near invincible. Can he do it? Can he destroy the last sacred thing left in the WWE? Or will he end the streak and, potentially, WWE itself?
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This story is dead, Brock lost to Cena clean, he can get 30 wins, he still lost clean and he's probably losing to HHH in August anyway. Even if not, that just makes Rock and Brock bigger. Rock and Lesnar at WM, with no feud AT ALL on WWE TV is bigger than Taker/Lesnar with a 3 months program for the names and mainstream publicity alone.
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05-30-2012, 06:38 PM
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Braden Walker
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Re: Report: Current plans for The Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 29.
It's going to be Rock vs. Brock and Taker vs. Cena.
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05-30-2012, 06:40 PM
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Braden Walker
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Re: Report: Current plans for The Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 29.
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Originally Posted by Rock316AE
This story is dead, Brock lost to Cena clean, he can get 30 wins, he still lost clean and he's probably losing to HHH in August anyway. Even if not, that just makes Rock and Brock bigger. Rock and Lesnar at WM, with no feud AT ALL on WWE TV is bigger than Taker/Lesnar with a 3 months program for the names and mainstream publicity alone.
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Yep. They blew any chance they had with Taker/Lesnar after having Lesnar job his first match back at Extreme Rules. There's absolutely no interest in this match. They can't say Lesnar is undefeated and play up the whole "who will finally stop him" storyline. That is over with.
A cocky heel typical wrestler Lesnar vs. The Rock makes more sense now. Undefeated, unstoppable Lesnar vs. Undertaker's undefeated WM win streak would have made much more sense for those two.
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05-30-2012, 06:41 PM
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Wheel Man for SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Report: Current plans for The Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 29.
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Originally Posted by Rock316AE
This story is dead, Brock lost to Cena clean, he can get 30 wins, he still lost clean and he's probably losing to HHH in August anyway. Even if not, that just makes Rock and Brock bigger. Rock and Lesnar at WM, with no feud AT ALL on WWE TV is bigger than Taker/Lesnar with a 3 months program for the names and mainstream publicity alone.
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Eh, I still think Taker/Brock is the bigger match, but having Brock lose to Cena right out of the gate damaged the fuck out of it, I'll give you that.
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05-30-2012, 06:44 PM
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#230 (permalink)
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Braden Walker
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Re: Report: Current plans for The Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania 29.
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Originally Posted by SarcasmoBlaster
Eh, I still think Taker/Brock is the bigger match, but having Brock lose to Cena right out of the gate damaged the fuck out of it, I'll give you that.
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You just can't have Lesnar play up the whole "legit" thing anymore after already losing. Now he's just another average wrestler. How are people supposed to take him as a serious threat to Undertaker's WM streak when he's already lost?
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