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Old 02-24-2013, 01:42 PM   #1961 (permalink)
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No it isn't. This card is completely indefensable.
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Old 02-24-2013, 01:45 PM   #1962 (permalink)
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I'll just say this: I'd much, MUCH rather see Taker/Cena than Taker/Lesnar. Easily.
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I'll just say this: I'd much, MUCH rather see Taker/Cena than Taker/Lesnar. Easily.
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No it isn't. This card is completely indefensable.
Oh, Go take a snooze pill and he might be facing brock, You know.
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I don't understand Tyrion and I am as big a CM Punk fan as he is.

Wrestling Undertaker at Wrestlemania is bigger than any title match. Last year the Undertaker-HHH build and match put Rock-Cena in the shade. I predict Taker-Punk build and match to surpass Rock-Cena II also.

If Punk were involved into the Rock-Cena match and it became a Triple threat he'd simply just be the third cog in the wheel and completely irrelevant in the build up. But a match of Undertaker means he will be showcased for the PPV.

There is no bigger match on a wrestlemania card than the streak match.
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Old 02-24-2013, 04:23 PM   #1966 (permalink)
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I don't understand Tyrion and I am as big a CM Punk fan as he is.

Wrestling Undertaker at Wrestlemania is bigger than any title match. Last year the Undertaker-HHH build and match put Rock-Cena in the shade. I predict Taker-Punk build and match to surpass Rock-Cena II also.

If Punk were involved into the Rock-Cena match and it became a Triple threat he'd simply just be the third cog in the wheel and completely irrelevant in the build up. But a match of Undertaker means he will be showcased for the PPV.

There is no bigger match on a wrestlemania card than the streak match.
Bullshit. The BIGGEST match is the closer, that's the REASON it closes. That's the whole point, it's the focus, the focus is last. I don't care if Punk is the "third wheel", he deserves to get his main event, that's the end of it. Jobbing to Taker in a match below Rock/Cena and Triple H/Brock is not good enough. And to be honest, I don't give a shit, in the slightest what the fans think, I don't care if at the end of the night, people think Punk/Taker had the match of the night, I don't care if people THINK it's the biggest match when it's not, that's meaningless. You don't get a prize for match of the night or stealing the show, the only important thing is what the WWE pushes as the focus, and the focus is not Punk vs Undertaker, it's Rock vs Cena. There's a reason that the WrestleMania billboard has Rock, Cena and Lesnar on it and not Punk and Undertaker, it's an afterthought.

You can call him being in the triple threat the "third cog in the wheel" but now he's the sixth cog. I also GUARANTEE that Punk gets a higher payday being the "third wheel" than he does facing Taker.

If you want to settle for this, that's your business. I won't. WWE flushed 434 days down the toilet just to promote a Rock/Cena rematch that didn't need the title and threw Punk to the dogs, that's the facts of the situation. The longest reigning WWE Champion of the last 25 years not being in the main event of WrestleMania is an insult to him, it's an insult to the title, it's an insult to the fans intelligence and it's an insult to the history of WrestleMania. Punk is better than just being known as "Number 21". He's got one thing left to do in his career, main event WrestleMania and they pissed in his face and threw it away on an over the hill legend who's trying to hang on past his expiration date.
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I agree with Tyrion here. As much as I hate to say this, Punk deserves a spot in the main event after the year he has had. Punk vs Taker just seems random for me. Why would Taker interfere in Punk's match (if it's going to happen)? it just seems weird because Punk has never said anything about Taker during his 434 day reign.
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Bullshit. The BIGGEST match is the closer, that's the REASON it closes. That's the whole point, it's the focus, the focus is last. I don't care if Punk is the "third wheel", he deserves to get his main event, that's the end of it. Jobbing to Taker in a match below Rock/Cena and Triple H/Brock is not good enough. And to be honest, I don't give a shit, in the slightest what the fans think, I don't care if at the end of the night, people think Punk/Taker had the match of the night, I don't care if people THINK it's the biggest match when it's not, that's meaningless. You don't get a prize for match of the night or stealing the show, the only important thing is what the WWE pushes as the focus, and the focus is not Punk vs Undertaker, it's Rock vs Cena. There's a reason that the WrestleMania billboard has Rock, Cena and Lesnar on it and not Punk and Undertaker, it's an afterthought.

You can call him being in the triple threat the "third cog in the wheel" but now he's the sixth cog. I also GUARANTEE that Punk gets a higher payday being the "third wheel" than he does facing Taker.

If you want to settle for this, that's your business. I won't. WWE flushed 434 days down the toilet just to promote a Rock/Cena rematch that didn't need the title and threw Punk to the dogs, that's the facts of the situation. The longest reigning WWE Champion of the last 25 years not being in the main event of WrestleMania is an insult to him, it's an insult to the title, it's an insult to the fans intelligence and it's an insult to the history of WrestleMania. Punk is better than just being known as "Number 21".
Dude you are taking this too seriously, punk has a nice spot at mania no matter what
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Bullshit. The BIGGEST match is the closer, that's the REASON it closes. That's the whole point, it's the focus, the focus is last. I don't care if Punk is the "third wheel", he deserves to get his main event, that's the end of it. Jobbing to Taker in a match below Rock/Cena and Triple H/Brock is not good enough. And to be honest, I don't give a shit, in the slightest what the fans think, I don't care if at the end of the night, people think Punk/Taker had the match of the night, I don't care if people THINK it's the biggest match when it's not, that's meaningless. You don't get a prize for match of the night or stealing the show, the only important thing is what the WWE pushes as the focus, and the focus is not Punk vs Undertaker, it's Rock vs Cena. There's a reason that the WrestleMania billboard has Rock, Cena and Lesnar on it and not Punk and Undertaker, it's an afterthought.

You can call him being in the triple threat the "third cog in the wheel" but now he's the sixth cog. I also GUARANTEE that Punk gets a higher payday being the "third wheel" than he does facing Taker.

If you want to settle for this, that's your business. I won't. WWE flushed 434 days down the toilet just to promote a Rock/Cena rematch that didn't need the title and threw Punk to the dogs, that's the facts of the situation. The longest reigning WWE Champion of the last 25 years not being in the main event of WrestleMania is an insult to him, it's an insult to the title, it's an insult to the fans intelligence and it's an insult to the history of WrestleMania. Punk is better than just being known as "Number 21". He's got one thing left to do in his career, main event WrestleMania and they pissed in his face and threw it away on an over the hill legend who's trying to hang on past his experation date.
One question, though. Why are you more concerned about Punk closing the show than just enjoying what you get? I can understand not enjoying the show because there could've been better match-ups but you're angered by the booking because of CARD PLACEMENT?

And lol @ bolded.
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I don't care about "nice spots", I care about something that matters. Something that's legacy defining. This isn't good for Punk. It's a nice spot for Del Rio, or Sheamus, or Orton, or somebody like that who nobody cares about. For somebody who's at the level that Punk is, this is BENEATH him. He is better than this. All putting him with Taker proves is that WWE only values him when it's convenient for them, when it comes time for WrestleMania, when people pay attention to the product, they jerk off in his face and throw him in the midcard.

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Because I don't enjoy the show when people GET LESS THAN THEY DESERVE, and that's exactly what Punk's getting. I want people to be valued to the level they should be, and this match re-affirms that that's not the case. Yeah, Punk burying Taker on the mic will be entertaining but it doesn't MATTER, he's still in a match that doesn't matter, he's not advancing, he's not doing the ONE thing he has left to do to have a full career. He's in the same slot he was in last year, middle of the show. I don't enjoy it because it's not enjoyable to watch. Watching how great Punk is going to be during this feud is going to piss me off even more when I look at how he's being undervalued by being there in the first place.

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Look, I'm an Undertaker fan, but I will not just sit back and take this. I'm going to come straight with it. Undertaker once said he doesn't want to be the guy that people look at and say "you should've seen him back then". Well, he's that guy now. When I saw that picture of him on the steps with that flabby ass gut, it made me sick. He's gonna turn into Hogan and Flair if he doesn't stop this shit soon.
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