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I'm pretty sure the reason Taker is questionable is because his body is basically broken and his annual Streak match has nearly killed him the last few years.

This year and next year are surely the last two Streak matches. I hope to God they're Brock/Taker and then Cena/Taker.

That said, if they don't end the Streak (and that should be Taker's retirement match) and have Undertaker retire undefeated, they are missing out on one of the biggest moments in this entire industry. It would be such a gigantic waste if they didn't end the Streak.
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The only thing I'm buying from these reports is that maybe he wanted a match with Brock or Cena, no way is he bothered about the money anymore, he's a multi millionaire outside his wrestling exploits. As for injuries, don't buy that either, people said he should have stopped after WM27, then he came back again for another brutal, high class match. Anyone remember he was on Raw 1000? If it's how some people make out, he can't walk till 9 months after his match, but he looked fine on Raw.

The way I see it, sadly, Rock, Cena and Brock are out of the question, so you need to make the most of what you have left, in my eyes, they are Punk, Jericho and Sheamus - Give one of them some real strong booking on Raw, they win 10 matches on the bounce, and challenge Taker.
If the rumors are true, Sheamus & Jericho might be booked against Orton & Ziggler respectively.

But, yeah, we seem to be looking at Punk vs Taker here. But with Punk losing the title to Rock & is more than likely going to lose the rematch at EC, I wonder who'll buy him as a threat to The Streak with all the recent failures & losses.

I think if Taker goes up against Punk at WM 29 this year, regardless of the quality of match, it will be the first time since WM 22 you know Taker is taking this win without any threat at all.

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You have to go back as far as Mania 20 to find a Mania card where Takers match was clearly not one of the top two attractions. So maybe the story is true and he doesn't wanna play "third" fiddle so to speak.
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But I don't get what's with this third fiddle rumor bullshit. Hell, at WM 27 he also played third fiddle to Cena/Rock and Cole/Lawler, just look at the amount of promos & build ups Taker/HHH II had , compare it to Rock/Cena & Cole/Lawler and you'd know what I mean.

This report is unbelievable. Taker couldn't care less whom he's gonna face at WM 29.

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Punk/Ryback? I'd probably cry if that was confirmed

I'm still holding out for Taker to be there and I'm sure he'll have a match
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Not getting excited about the thought of taker v punk . . But if he still had the title and they did streak v streak that would be huge . . They needed to do that . .

Not sure he,ll have a match at this point but I'm pretty sure we,ll get an appearance .. Maybe a challenge for WM 30???
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I think Undertaker should sit this one out.

A match with Punk doesn't make sense at this point. There's no background storyline to put them together.

And of course, I don't want Punk losing to Undertaker. Same for Cena and Lesnar; neither should lose to Undertaker.

Undertaker should just prepare for a retirement match @ 'Mania 30.
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But I don't get what's with this third fiddle rumor bullshit. Hell, at WM 27 he also played third fiddle to Cena/Rock and Cole/Lawler, just look at the amount of promos & build ups Taker/HHH II had , compare it to Rock/Cena & Cole/Lawler and you'd know what I mean.

This report is unbelievable. Taker couldn't care less whom he's gonna face at WM 29.
Cena/HHH for the title was the clear main event but the rest of the main event matches, including Taker/Henry were pretty much of equal importance and star power. (Same with Mania 21) There was no clear semi main event.

And no way was Cole/Lawler even with Stone Cold as the ref a bigger match than HHH/Taker for the streak. I mean do you really think that?!
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Cena/HHH for the title was the clear main event but the rest of the main event matches, including Taker/Henry were pretty much of equal importance and star power. (Same with Mania 21) There was no clear semi main event.

And no way was Cole/Lawler even with Stone Cold as the ref a bigger match than HHH/Taker for the streak. I mean do you really think that?!
  • Edge-Foley
  • Money in the Bank ladder match (which was still new at this time)
  • Rey-Angle-Orton
  • Shawn Michaels-Vince

were all booked as more important than Taker-Henry. Their match was an afterthought.
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Cena/HHH for the title was the clear main event but the rest of the main event matches, including Taker/Henry were pretty much of equal importance and star power. (Same with Mania 21) There was no clear semi main event.

And no way was Cole/Lawler even with Stone Cold as the ref a bigger match than HHH/Taker for the streak. I mean do you really think that?!
Just look at how strong Cole/Lawler's build up and compare it to HHH/Taker's almost non-existent hype and build. Obviously WWE was promoting Cole/Lawler as the bigger match.

I admit Taker/HHH at WM 17 & 28 got strong build and hype, but their WM 27's build was POS.

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  • Edge-Foley
  • Money in the Bank ladder match (which was still new at this time)
  • Rey-Angle-Orton
  • Shawn Michaels-Vince

were all booked as more important than Taker-Henry. Their match was an afterthought.
This, Taker/Henry was a leftover.

Though, I suppose Taker/Punk as a leftover will be a better match at WM 29 this year.
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Just an impression I'm getting, a lot of people I see, use the early matches of the streak to diminish the career of the Undertaker, it's like people forget that he has a career outside the streak.

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Just an impression I'm getting, a lot of people I see, use the early matches of the streak to diminish the career of the Undertaker, it's like people forget that he has a career outside the streak.


Exactly, Undertaker had a successful career even without the streak. The streak is nothing more than just a sell and it wasn't even planned, it just happened. What about what the Undertaker has contributed to the WWE. Arguably the greatest gimmick of all time. An innovater, his matches with Mick Foley. His performance in the very first Hell in a Cell match. He had matches that went along with his character.

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Just look at how strong Cole/Lawler's build up and compare it to HHH/Taker's almost non-existent hype and build. Obviously WWE was promoting Cole/Lawler as the bigger match.

I admit Taker/HHH at WM 17 & 28 got strong build and hype, but their WM 27's build was POS.


Almost non-existent? We had the whole 02-21-11 vignettes creating a buzz very few returns have had. Those lead to the awesome returns of Taker and Hunter in the great "non-talking" segment. Then the promo including HBK in Chicago. Basically this match was one year in the making with HBKs retirement angle.

So much great stuff and all those things were much better and much more original than any Cole/Lawler angle.

WWE even considered to close mania with Hunter/Taker. That's how big and important this feud/match was. After Mania it was clear that this was the real main event because this match had by far the most heat.

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