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Old 01-31-2013, 06:25 PM   #1471 (permalink)
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It would be incredibly moronic to call a destroyed streak "streak". Streak is something you have when it's still active.

Besides, 22-0 or 23-0 DVD sells better than say, 20-1?
But lets say he only goes to next year or the year after that
22-0 is fine and all but IMO people will pay to see the ending, pepole like seeing "history" making

they loved it when Andre lost, people always pay to see streaks not cause they are undefeated but the chance to see them lose
if he retires after this one
20-1 and 21-0 are the same IMO, all you do with 20-1 is give someone else something to go on rather then make the streak useless, and make a moment, how many of Andre matchs of his undefeated streak do you recall? how much do you watch? whats his most famous match?

How about Goldberg? whats one of his most famous matches?

when they lose, and I'd auger it would sell far better

No one cares about guys who where undefeated 30 years ago and NEVER EVER lost a match, it gets forgotten and laid to rest

Can you tell me, with out looking them up, teams\pepole\sports that where undefeated two decades ago?
Maybe you can, most cant, but they CAN tell you who lost, cause its a bigger moment

if he keeps wining so what? he always wins, but to see it end? that's HISTORY that's bigger then him wining




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Was Goldberg's career the same after his 173-0 ended? Was Andre's career the same when his 15 years unbeaten run ended? Was Sammartino's career the same when his 7 years WWE title run came to an end? No, right?
But I'm saying his LST match, when there IS no carrea to be affected, and look at the people who beat them, they can for their rest of their lfies (for better or worse) use it
As been said before the most memorable (or top 3) moments is when they LOSE, had they won it would of been "just another match"
and even then, look at what Andre losing did, look at what Goldberg lossing did, ruin them? maybe, but it had for better worse WAY more impact then if they had won and been undefeated forever.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:31 PM   #1472 (permalink)
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The only person who wants HHH/LESNAR over TAKER/LESNAR is HHH. All the WWE fans have years waiting for this match. Why not do the right thing? HHH doesn't need to beat Lesnar. On the other hand he is hurting his legacy with this stupid selfish attitude.
IMO it should be Punk/Hunter & Brock/Taker seriously.

But whatever, just hope Brock/Hunter have a serious gimmick match and not talking about NO DQ, at this point and whatever coming it will be too personal for that shit. Have a feeling the match would be much better that way.
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The only thing that would make me smile is fans chanting we want Taker during the Lesnar/Hunter build up. His ego would be crushed.
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I hope that happens.
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im perfectly happy with the way the wrestlemania card is this year i love rematches as a matter of fact the 2nd time always winds up being better than the 1st. hhh vs lesnar 2 will be a great match and i think a stipulation will be added to it like nodq, street fight etc. itll be fun. cena vs rock 2 im all for and i think the rematch will blow away the 1st match they had. i thought the mania 28 match was somewhat dissapointing and i said i have a feeling their holding back for the 2nd match so thats what i think will happen. punk vs taker will be great and be better then the matches they had back in 2009 this will be the marquee match of all of them. and sheamus vs orton will be a fun match too. so yeah im perfectly happy with this rumored card it looks like a lot of fun and i cant wait to see them all live april 7th at metlife stadium in jersey!
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and undertaker will be at wrestlemania this year screw that .................. site ive read things on that site that ended up being completely bogus he will be there mark my words hes loyal to the company thats why he never went to wcw in the 90s and has never ended up in tna. he will work mania im tired of reading these stories he wont be there blah blah blah he wants cash hes hurt shut up internet they dont know shit theyre smarks who think they know but they dont and that includes all of you!

p.s. hes signing vip friday night april 5th at izod center for wrestlemania 29 axxess if he wasnt gonna be a part of mania this year he probably wouldnt be a part of axxess he would probably stay at home funny how these so called intelligent wrestling news sites dont mention that morons!

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The only thing that would make me smile is fans chanting we want Taker during the Lesnar/Hunter build up. His ego would be crushed.
That would be awesome.

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I love Undertaker but I will be REAL about this one.... I would be content and satisfied if I never ever saw Undertaker wrestle ever again.

The man is hurting and it really started to show at WM 27. He only does a match once a year.

The WWE and the fans, including the IWC, have to move on into a world where the Streak is not hosted and the Deadman does not appear at WrestleMania, or anymore in a competitive capacity. Remember all that talk about falling back on old stars to pull ratings and pop big matches... well, this is the epitome of that movement to let the old guard walk away (especially after the classic last year in the Cell).
Kayfabe, dude. But the fact that you (and many other people) bought it says a lot about Taker's ability to sell his gimmick.

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Yeah, I've officially changed my stance LOL. I think the time for that match is way past us now. Ideally it could have happened at WM 23, but they wanted to keep Cena strong on his year-plus reign.
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The time for that match is not passed us at all. Taker vs Cena has been rumord to happen since WM 26. It was supost to happen at that WM but since HBK wanted to retire vs the Undertaker HBK got his way. WM 27 wwe was hoping to get Sting to face him at WM 27 but once sting backed out at last min cena was already involved in the wwe title storyline so he couldnt face Taker then. If Rock hadnt come back to wrestle at WM 28 i believe we would have gotten the match then. Having Cena vs Taker this year wouldnt feel as big as it would be if it were to happen at WM 30. I truly believe we will see Taker vs Cena at WM 30 its a big money match Taker knows it Cena knows it and definatly Vince knows it
WM 30 will be Rock/Cena III, brother.

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when does the undertaker's streak just become part of the show? this isn't exactly the same, but in baseball cal ripken broke lou gehrig's record and then played another 500 straight games. i feel like 20-0 is enough. taker should be an attraction at mania now, not the show.
Taker became the show itself ever since he started stealing the show at WM 23. Don't reject greatness when you watch one, brother.

It's like I said:

Hogan made Wrestlemania.
HBK is Mr. Wrestlemania.
Undertaker is Wrestlemania.

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Taker has 2 or 3 matches at most left in him. Each of them should be a huge part of WM.


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Wow wwe if this is true then your idiots. Just give undertaker what he wants. He wants to be in a top match with top WM mania. Have him face Lesnar come on Vince do whats right for the fans and for business. Same with Austin pay him what he wants and he will wrestle at WM 30
Vince has always been an idiot. Why "genius businessman" comes close to being his label is beyond me.

But, I call BS on that one. Taker is never one to be too materialistic. He has a successful business backing his real life finance and is a very very wealthy man. I doubt he's asking that much money to appear. He appears out of loyalty and love for the company.

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Business is business. No no one wants to see HHH/LESNAR at WM. Just do what's right and have TAKER/LESNAR.

And I don't get it...How is TAKER/PUNK considered less important than HHH/LESNAR? In fact TAKER/PUNK is the most popular match of the 3 rumored main events. I think it's not just about money... I think Taker wants to face Lesnar. He asked him at a UFC event and is a big MMA fan. It makes sense he wants that match.
Maybe it's also possible that Lesnar is obviously the bigger name compared to Punk. I mean, who in the blue hell will buy Punk as a threat to The Streak anyway?

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But lets say he only goes to next year or the year after that
22-0 is fine and all but IMO people will pay to see the ending, pepole like seeing "history" making

they loved it when Andre lost, people always pay to see streaks not cause they are undefeated but the chance to see them lose
if he retires after this one
20-1 and 21-0 are the same IMO, all you do with 20-1 is give someone else something to go on rather then make the streak useless, and make a moment, how many of Andre matchs of his undefeated streak do you recall? how much do you watch? whats his most famous match?

How about Goldberg? whats one of his most famous matches?

when they lose, and I'd auger it would sell far better

No one cares about guys who where undefeated 30 years ago and NEVER EVER lost a match, it gets forgotten and laid to rest

Can you tell me, with out looking them up, teams\pepole\sports that where undefeated two decades ago?
Maybe you can, most cant, but they CAN tell you who lost, cause its a bigger moment

if he keeps wining so what? he always wins, but to see it end? that's HISTORY that's bigger then him wining
There's no way losing is bigger than winning. Not in this sport or anything else.

And though I cannot name Andre or Goldberg matches, I'm more than willing to bet Taker/HBK at WM 25 remains Taker/s most famous match ever.

And if he keeps winning, the bigger his legacy, then. And since I'm his fan, that makes me a happy camper.

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But I'm saying his LST match, when there IS no carrea to be affected, and look at the people who beat them, they can for their rest of their lfies (for better or worse) use it
As been said before the most memorable (or top 3) moments is when they LOSE, had they won it would of been "just another match"
and even then, look at what Andre losing did, look at what Goldberg lossing did, ruin them? maybe, but it had for better worse WAY more impact then if they had won and been undefeated forever.
Andre's loss had a better impact, sure.

How about Goldberg's loss? WCW crumbled, right?

So, that means there's no guarantee Taker's loss would make a better impact either. So, why take that risk? Why not build your stars without The Streak? It's not like going against The Streak is needed to build a new star.

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The only thing that would make me smile is fans chanting we want Taker during the Lesnar/Hunter build up. His ego would be crushed.
I'd be happy to hear that as well. But WWE would just edit the chant out on their DVD.

Besides, I doubt there's anything in the world that could crush HHH's ego.
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There's no way losing is bigger than winning. Not in this sport or anything else.
It is, in terms of "memroys" it will creat a much bigger thing,

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And though I cannot name Andre or Goldberg matches, I'm more than willing to bet Taker/HBK at WM 25 remains Taker/s most famous match ever.
I agree, but I think you can say that's one of the best matches ever and is an exception to the rule, if you fight like that it don't matter if the streak was on the line or not, it would be remember above the feud or the moment it was in


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And if he keeps winning, the bigger his legacy, then. And since I'm his fan, that makes me a happy camper.
Fair enough, but I'm talking about when he is done and his last match, there is no "more leacy" except maybe the guy who beat him, who could owe all his future susces to taker




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Andre's loss had a better impact, sure.

How about Goldberg's loss? WCW crumbled, right?

So, that means there's no guarantee Taker's loss would make a better impact either. So, why take that risk? Why not build your stars without The Streak? It's not like going against The Streak is needed to build a new star.
WCW crumbling was a impact, notice I said for better or worse, but even then it MADE Kevin Nash, that moment is one of his most famous (infamous) moments, I'd agure that it helped WCW as while it still fail I believe it had people talking, and once again it led to some impressive things, NWO and many other things going on the time where "raised" they lost yes, but that was more due to things out side of what happens in the ring (the company not wanting anything to do with wrestling)


As for why take the risk, becuse there is nothing to gain by letting him keep it, if someone beats taker its quite possible he will lead WWE to a new golden age, I dont know about you but that sounds worth it, more so when Taker keeping it adds nothing

I'm not saying do it with Cena, or that Taker don't deserve to keep it, just that Taker him self has always been a company man, he wanted the streak to end, he wants to put a new guy over. and I get that, its sort of old school but thats how it used to ALWAYS be, Taker is that type of guy and I respect what he wants, and also want whats best for the WWE


I have no problem if he dose go undefeated but I think for WWE its best he losses
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