[The Pied Piper]

Originally Posted by Rayfu

But the thing is taker is by all acounts a pro, he knows what his job is, he dont care about "wins" or losses

He knows how things work so he will show up IMO


And why cant they do that when the streak is broken?
If CM punk where to retired before he lost to the rock, would his holding the title that longer and NEVER losing it sell stuff more? no imo

I dont see how him wining or lossing affects it now, they can still call it the streak, its still the best recore4d out there

It would be incredibly moronic to call a destroyed streak "streak". Streak is something you have when it's still active.

Besides, 22-0 or 23-0 DVD sells better than say, 20-1?

Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

If they DO want to break it though, you wouldn't let Punk break it until AFTER Taker has met Cena at Mania in my opinion.

Taker never faced a WWE Icon at Wrestlemania, dude. All 5 of them, Hogan, Bret, Austin, Rock, and Lesnar, he missed them all. Don't start hoping he'll see Super Cena.

Originally Posted by Rayfu

Punk should not, but think of this, thast could be whats need to bring the next new face, I'd say its worth it in the end, takers legacy is nice and all but he form what I hear would have no problem giving the future the win

Vince McMahon, the boss of the company, does, however, have a problem with that.

Originally Posted by robertdeniro

Paul Bearer Unsure if Undertaker Will Work WrestleMania 29

We've heard how Taker is one leg drop away from being in complete paralysis since WM 26.

Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

Whether it is Punk or not. They should not have anyone defeat the streak until AFTER Taker has met John Cena. They are missing out on a potential big money match there, perhaps even have it an 'I Quit' match or something. Undertaker defeats the face of the company and then the following year CM Punk or anyone who is scheduled to face him defeats the streak.

It won't do anything to Takers credibility. He went fucking 20+ years undefeated at Wrestlemania. People will still tune in to see The Undertaker whether he has a loss to his name or not. It's The Undertaker for god sake!

Was Goldberg's career the same after his 173-0 ended? Was Andre's career the same when his 15 years unbeaten run ended? Was Sammartino's career the same when his 7 years WWE title run came to an end? No, right?

When your career is build on a streak, you are only as relevant as that streak itself. And a streak is relevant only when it's not broken. Same applies to Undertaker.

Originally Posted by Rayfu

What good dose the streak do when Taker is gone?
we always talk about how the new guys should be pushed to me thats one of the few impossible to fuck up (which means WWE will find four ways to easily) ways to get some one the man

We've seen many greats that never even begin to come near The Streak. Which means, if the new generation is indeed worthy of carrying the legacy of those greats, then not breaking The Streak is okay for them.

Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

Can they take that risk though?

I mean they could have some new "star" break the streak thinking it'll give him the rub and the crowd would just not give a shit or he decides to pack his bags and leave because he realised wrestling isn't for him and doesn't like the travelling.

Precisely.

Originally Posted by Rayfu

But I'm talking when Taker is done, if he leaves he leaves, it adds nothing to the streak, there is no risk, the streak would be "dead" at that point anyways in this case

No, a streak dies only when it's broken. If nothing/none stops it, it stays alive. Just look at Taker's current condition. He wrestler once a year since 2011, but nobody says his streak dies when he doesn't wrestle at Wrestlemania, right?

Originally Posted by Stone Hot

I think the rumors about his health are false. Yea he can be hurting a little from the toll his body took over the years but come on the guy has been wrestling 1 match a year. He gets a years rest everytime and just cause of that I cant see his body hurting that bad to wear he cant wrestle 1 match a year. I truly believe he will be competing at WM 29 and WM 30. Its one match a year ONE match

The rumor about his health has been BS since WM 26. It amazes me how many people still buy it even at the moment. It's as legit as Punk saying Sammartino only wrestled 4 or 5 times a year.

[Stone Hot]

Taker never faced a WWE Icon at Wrestlemania, dude. All 5 of them, Hogan, Bret, Austin, Rock, and Lesnar, he missed them all. Don't start hoping he'll see Super Cena.

I’ve said this so many times Undertaker never faced those guys at WM because when they were around the streak wasn’t a big selling point for WM yet. Back when Hogan was full time when Taker was there Undertaker was only 2-0 the streak didn’t mean jack shit then. Taker wasn’t really a big main eventer until 1997 after WM 13 and in 1997 Bret Left so he couldn’t face him. The streak didn’t become a selling point for WM until WM 21 and by that time Austin was retired and Rock left for Hollywood. Im pretty sure if Austin didn’t retire and Rock stayed that they would have had their shot at the streak. John Cena has even said it himself that he would like to face Undertaker at WM 30. The match is gonna happen it’s a big money match that both Taker, Cena, and Vince knows about. It will happen WM 30 bank on it

[Iron Head]

I love Undertaker but I will be REAL about this one.... I would be content and satisfied if I never ever saw Undertaker wrestle ever again.

The man is hurting and it really started to show at WM 27. He only does a match once a year.

The WWE and the fans, including the IWC, have to move on into a world where the Streak is not hosted and the Deadman does not appear at WrestleMania, or anymore in a competitive capacity. Remember all that talk about falling back on old stars to pull ratings and pop big matches... well, this is the epitome of that movement to let the old guard walk away (especially after the classic last year in the Cell).

[zep81]

Well, you have Cana/Taker in your sig as a 'want' item lol.

[Iron Head]

Originally Posted by zep81

Well, you have Cana/Taker in your sig as a 'want' item lol.

Yeah, I've officially changed my stance LOL. I think the time for that match is way past us now. Ideally it could have happened at WM 23, but they wanted to keep Cena strong on his year-plus reign.

[Stone Hot]

The time for that match is not passed us at all. Taker vs Cena has been rumord to happen since WM 26. It was supost to happen at that WM but since HBK wanted to retire vs the Undertaker HBK got his way. WM 27 wwe was hoping to get Sting to face him at WM 27 but once sting backed out at last min cena was already involved in the wwe title storyline so he couldnt face Taker then. If Rock hadnt come back to wrestle at WM 28 i believe we would have gotten the match then. Having Cena vs Taker this year wouldnt feel as big as it would be if it were to happen at WM 30. I truly believe we will see Taker vs Cena at WM 30 its a big money match Taker knows it Cena knows it and definatly Vince knows it

[erivera]

when does the undertaker's streak just become part of the show? this isn't exactly the same, but in baseball cal ripken broke lou gehrig's record and then played another 500 straight games. i feel like 20-0 is enough. taker should be an attraction at mania now, not the show.

[JAROTO]

Originally Posted by erivera

when does the undertaker's streak just become part of the show? this isn't exactly the same, but in baseball cal ripken broke lou gehrig's record and then played another 500 straight games. i feel like 20-0 is enough. taker should be an attraction at mania now, not the show.

Taker has 2 or 3 matches at most left in him. Each of them should be a huge part of WM.

[Stone Hot]

http://www....................com/hu...estlemania-29/

There has been a lot of chatter lately about whether or not The Undertaker will wrestle at Wrestlemania 29 this year. Obviously he’s pretty banged up and WWE is trying their best to steer the story so the focus remains on Undertaker’s health. We’re told the hangup is not about health, it’s about money. Just like the with Steve Austin, Undertaker is not interested in wrestling for less than main event money.
With a show that already has The Rock and Brock Lesnar in separate matches, Undertaker feels it’s not worth wrestling this year if he’s going to get “third from the top” type money. He can sit out a year, which only increases his value next year, and perhaps Vince McMahon ponies up the type of cash Undertaker wants for a Wrestlemania match.
Vince and Undertaker are still talking and Taker could end up on the show, but like with Mark Henry not being ”healthy” enough to return unless it was in a top spot, we’re told Taker isn’t coming back unless it’s for main event type money. His health issues are genuine, but if the money is right, he’d wrestle anyway.
My source says WWE has been planting stories through third party publications to make sure the public perception isn’t that it’s a money issue. With Undertaker not the type of person that’s going to get involved with the Internet, it’s easier for WWE to paint the picture how they wish.

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Wow wwe if this is true then your idiots. Just give undertaker what he wants. He wants to be in a top match with top WM mania. Have him face Lesnar come on Vince do whats right for the fans and for business. Same with Austin pay him what he wants and he will wrestle at WM 30

[JAROTO]

I can't believe money is an issue. Just pay him what he deserves and have him face Lesnar.