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Old 01-30-2013, 10:21 PM   #1431 (permalink)
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The Undertaker is my favorite wrestler of all time, but I hope he retires. He's not in the same shape he once was, and he's approaching 50 soon. He doesn't need to beat John Cena to cement his legacy. He's beaten more top name stars at one point or another than ANY other major star. Punk vs Taker if Punk had the belt was a cool match, but Rock won the belt. Let the Deadman take a year off at least. If he wants to return, unexpectedly, next year and face John Cena - then do that. He doesn't need to wrestle this WM, and this show looks to have The Rock and Lesnar anyhow. Vince will have to deal with it.

Next year, The Undertaker vs John Cena. Cena could still have the belt after he gets it at WM, and drop it, and set up a tournament for it summer of 2014. Have WM XXX in London, and have Barrett win the Rumble and face Sheamus for the WHC title. Would get Barrett insaley over to win the belt in England, and make every IWC person happy to see Cena get his ass kicked by The Deadman. And Lesnar can face The Rock at 2014. Sounds great - book it now.
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:27 PM   #1432 (permalink)
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no it will be unacceptable if hes not at wrestlemania 29 this year i mean im still gonna go no matter what happens but ive never gotten to see taker wrestle a wrestlemania match before live i would like to see it at least once in my life and i dont think ill make it to wrestlemania 30 next year. itll be very unacceptable to me if taker doesnt wrestle and i would lose a little respect for him. he'll be there you guys are reading too much into the internet reports pwinsider is a load of crap and im tired of that dike mike johnson reporting this shit he doesnt work in wwe so he doesnt know shit! maybe somebody will respond to this if theyve got the cahones to debate this!
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:59 PM   #1433 (permalink)
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Meltzer shouldn't be taken seriously anymore. I mean, come on, Punk/Cena at MITB 2011 received a 5 star rating but HHH/Austin at No Way Out 2001, TLC at WM 17, Angle/Benoit at Royal Rumble 2003, Angle/HBK at WM 21, and Taker/HBK at WM 25 & 26 didn't? That's BS.

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I don't actually believe that rumor, though I won't put it past Taker as he believes The Streak is becoming bigger than the sport itself. But no way WWE gives The Streak to a guy who will retire by 2015.

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Use a 20 year rub for 2 years until 2015? Good investment right there.
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Meltzer shouldn't be taken seriously anymore. I mean, come on, Punk/Cena at MITB 2011 received a 5 star rating but HHH/Austin at No Way Out 2001, TLC at WM 17, Angle/Benoit at Royal Rumble 2003, Angle/HBK at WM 21, and Taker/HBK at WM 25 & 26 didn't? That's BS.
Yeah I like Meltzer most of the times, but I don't get that rating for Punk/Rock either. All those matches were easily better with exception of Angle/HBK maybe.

The CM Punk blindness is getting out of hand on the net now lol.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:15 AM   #1435 (permalink)
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Earlier today a story came out about The Undertaker being undecided at this moment about working WrestleMania this year. Several people close to The Undertaker have said that they have been given a different version of that story. It's being said that the hold up here is the result of the match. When Taker said he wanted to work with Punk at WM he told WWE officials he wants The Streak to end and to retire, and Punk is his personal choice to pull it off. Higher up officials in WWE have been trying to convince Taker to pull back on that, as they are against the idea of Punk ending it. As of now the two sides have yet to reach an agreement, and both seem to remain very stern in their views. - Mr. Don

Why is this? There's always someone in management against the idea of Punk doing something. What the hell is wrong with these people? It's about time they put their full backing behind him for once. And if he is indeed 'Taker's personal choice to be the one to end the streak, then they should respect 'Taker enough, to not even question that decision.
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Do you say that as an excited CM Punk fan in light of your boy possibly ending the streak, or do you say that as a WWE fan in general with no favoritism?

Personally, I don't think the streak should ever end. But if Taker wants the end of the streak to be his final curtain call, thus ending his career once and for all... then so be it. At least it will be Undertaker's choice. If indeed the article's true and that's what he wants.

(although from a Cena fan point of view, on a bias and selfish level, I will never get to see Taker/Cena at mania 30 if that happens. )
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I'm just hoping he retires at wrestlemania 30, It just sounds right for him to end it then. Hopefully a hall of famer a few years later, not straight away like edge.

anyone one question, does anyone if undertaker still has his hair bald or is he growing it back?
Yeah, gonna be a baldie for the rest of his life.

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Mania wont have a 5 star match then. Only Taker gives 5 star matches at Mania, the rest almost always suck. Look last WM, the only good match other than Taker's was Punk/Jericho and that was a distant 4 star!
As far as 5 star matches go, Taker has 5 at WM alone.

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Cena/Punk is the only 5 star WWE match of the last 15 years?
Only according to Big Dave, one mans opinion. There have been several 5 star matches in that time.

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wow really? Their match was barely a 3 star match IMO
I gave it four stars the next day, but I was still marking out. 3 stars is more accurate.

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Meltzer shouldn't be taken seriously anymore. I mean, come on, Punk/Cena at MITB 2011 received a 5 star rating but HHH/Austin at No Way Out 2001, TLC at WM 17, Angle/Benoit at Royal Rumble 2003, Angle/HBK at WM 21, and Taker/HBK at WM 25 & 26 didn't? That's BS.



I don't actually believe that rumor, though I won't put it past Taker as he believes The Streak is becoming bigger than the sport itself. But no way WWE gives The Streak to a guy who will retire by 2015.



Use a 20 year rub for 2 years until 2015? Good investment right there.
Streak is better off unbroken, they can make tons of money off of it after Taker retires. If it gets broken, it's worthless IMO.

All those matches you listed were as good or better than Punk/Cena, exactly why Dave is so overrated in his opinion, despite what his marks like to think.
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How exactly can they make money off the streak one he retires?
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:02 AM   #1439 (permalink)
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Undertaker vs Punk UPDATE.

Earlier today a story came out about The Undertaker being undecided at this moment about working WrestleMania this year. Several people close to The Undertaker have said that they have been given a different version of that story. It's being said that the hold up here is the result of the match. When Taker said he wanted to work with Punk at WM he told WWE officials he wants The Streak to end and to retire, and Punk is his personal choice to pull it off. Higher up officials in WWE have been trying to convince Taker to pull back on that, as they are against the idea of Punk ending it. As of now the two sides have yet to reach an agreement, and both seem to remain very stern in their views. - Mr. Don

[b]Why is this? There's always someone in management against the idea of Punk doing something. What the hell is wrong with these people? It's about time they put their full backing behind him for once. And if he is indeed 'Taker's personal choice to be the one to end the streak, then they should respect 'Taker enough, to not even question that decision.[/B}
Ending a 20 year old legacy to a guy who will retire in 2 years? Great logic and booking right there.

Sure, it's Taker's decision. But Vince has the final say in everything and if he declares Taker's decision unfit for the benefit of his company, Taker will still have to obey.

The fact that Vince, HHH, and Steph have made it clear they want The Streak to stay intact alone pretty much makes it clear Punk isn't going to take The Streak with him when he bids adieu in 2015. As much power Taker has backstage, I believe Vince, Hunter, and Steph have bigger & higher power.

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Do you say that as an excited CM Punk fan in light of your boy possibly ending the streak, or do you say that as a WWE fan in general with no favoritism?

Personally, I don't think the streak should ever end. But if Taker wants the end of the streak to be his final curtain call, thus ending his career once and for all... then so be it. At least it will be Undertaker's choice. If indeed the article's true and that's what he wants.

(although from a Cena fan point of view, on a bias and selfish level, I will never get to see Taker/Cena at mania 30 if that happens. )
Still, Vince won't give The Streak to someone who'll leave come 2015. He'd rather see Taker facing Sheamus at WM 29 but winning rather than facing Punk but losing.

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Yeah, gonna be a baldie for the rest of his life.
Mohawk baldie? Cool.

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As far as 5 star matches go, Taker has 5 at WM alone.
Hm, I count 4. Close enough.

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Streak is better off unbroken, they can make tons of money off of it after Taker retires. If it gets broken, it's worthless IMO.
Agreed, an unbeaten streak only sells when it's intact.

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All those matches you listed were as good or better than Punk/Cena, exactly why Dave is so overrated in his opinion, despite what his marks like to think.
I concur, though I think all the matches I listed are way ahead of Punk/Cena when it comes to quality.

But in all seriousness, I cannot believe some people actually take his words as The Ten Commandments, you know?

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How exactly can they make money off the streak one he retires?
Ever heard of DVDs? Merchandises?

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Lesnar or Punk will lose to Taker at Mania.
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