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Honestly, I've always thought Punk vs. Undertaker would have a lot of potential if executed properly. For some reason, fans hate the idea because "their feud was disappointing in 2009".

But if you think about it, that's not saying much. They gave them 8 minutes on a B PPV (Breaking Point, in case many of you forgot) and a half-assed Hell in a Cell Match that lasted 10 minutes. They had no business being in a Hell in a Cell match to begin with. They were feuding for about 2 months. It made no sense. If they're given enough time in the ring as well as a strong build up, I don't see why they couldn't pull off a really good Wrestemania match. But it also depends on Taker's condition. Perhaps he's to the point where he needs some specialty match to make them more interesting.
Now that you mention it, it makes sense. Maybe WWE didn't give the feud justice the first time.

I think it'd be better to just let Punk & Taker go all out. Taker is very good adapting to mat & technical wrestling (just look at his match with Bret at Summerslam 1997, Angle at No Way Out 2006, and Edge at Wrestlemania 24 for example) and Punk is gifted with both (no need for examples, I'm sure), so just give them 25-35 minutes to go all the way and the show will be stolen.
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Right. Even Gonzales, Bundy, Bossman and A-Train had more of a chance to end the streak than Punk.

Punk is the worst opponent for Taker since Snuka.
What an odd thing to say. A retard, two career midcarders and a fat has been have more of a chance than the longest reigning WWE Champion since Hulkamania? No dice. And Punk has already had matches with Taker and held his own, so there really isn't anything to debate, is there?

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Punk can hit Taker with ten consecutive GTS, and I still would not believe he would get the 3-count. Now had Gonzales at Mania 9 hit Taker with one finish I would have been sure it was over.

I can't believe anyone is really thinking there's a chance of Punk winning. Now that's what is really ridiculous.
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A lot of split opinions on here concerning Punk vs Taker. For starters, no one in their right mind actually believes Giant Gonzalez or A Train and Big Show were better opponents than Punk is for 'Taker. I mean honestly, why? Becuase they are bigger and physically stronger? In that case any of them or the GReat Khali would be better opponents for Taker than HBK or HHH ever were. That simply is not the case. Punk is smaller yes but he is also a lot younger than taker, much faster and in better condition by a ton. I mean this is all kayfabe is it not? I don't think it is absurd to suspend disbelief that Punk could pose a serious threat to Taker. In fact, I would say in a real right he very well would be a viable threat. What is his character after all? He is devious, strategic, ruthless, cunning, anti-heroic and desperate to win. On top of that they book him as indeed quite talented and tough. I t hink with the proper build it could be far better than a bunch of streak matches that already occurred. That being said I will say that obviously as the streak goes on the quality of match and opponent we expect increases. So while years back Tensai woudl be a viable option as an opponent for Taker, he certainly would not be acceptable right now. They have obviously been out of ideas the past few years and simply rehashing HBK or HHH or a combination of the two and that is creating a very real issue: Where do they go now? Who is big enough to excite the audience the way those matches first did, still talented enough to actually put on an impressive match with an aging Taker? I have no idea which is why I would accept Punk. Other than that give me a heel Cena vs Taker or Lesnar vs Taker or I simply won't watch.
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A lot of split opinions on here concerning Punk vs Taker. For starters, no one in their right mind actually believes Giant Gonzalez or A Train and Big Show were better opponents than Punk is for 'Taker. I mean honestly, why? Becuase they are bigger and physically stronger? In that case any of them or the GReat Khali would be better opponents for Taker than HBK or HHH ever were. That simply is not the case. Punk is smaller yes but he is also a lot younger than taker, much faster and in better condition by a ton. I mean this is all kayfabe is it not? I don't think it is absurd to suspend disbelief that Punk could pose a serious threat to Taker. In fact, I would say in a real right he very well would be a viable threat. What is his character after all? He is devious, strategic, ruthless, cunning, anti-heroic and desperate to win. On top of that they book him as indeed quite talented and tough. I think with the proper build it could be far better than a bunch of streak matches that already occurred. That being said I will say that obviously as the streak goes on the quality of match and opponent we expect increases. So while years back Tensai woudl be a viable option as an opponent for Taker, he certainly would not be acceptable right now. They have obviously been out of ideas the past few years and simply rehashing HBK or HHH or a combination of the two and that is creating a very real issue: Where do they go now? Who is big enough to excite the audience the way those matches first did, still talented enough to actually put on an impressive match with an aging Taker? I have no idea which is why I would accept Punk. Other than that give me a heel Cena vs Taker or Lesnar vs Taker or I simply won't watch.
This is very reasonable, although I think the rematch with HBK at WM 26 was legit. The rematches with HHH, however, were definitely lazy booking.

BTW, you really describe Punk similar to how Edge is often described around WM 24. If the match can be as good as Taker/Edge, it will make for a great watch.
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Taker should not have a match next Wrestlemania since it's already loaded with Brock and Rocky.

There. I said it!
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I'm not predicting a Punk victory but I do think it has a much bigger chance of happening then you guys are realizing.

Same storyline as Rock Punk only this one actually has a chance of happening. Brock Lesnar interferes and costs Taker the match.

Right now WWE is floating around 2 possible opponents for Brock Lesnar if he resigns with the company. CM Punk and Undertaker. That's a pretty good indicator that Brock Lesnar might get involved in their match which will be the closing match of Wrestlemania 29 despite the fact that it won't be for the title. Punk and Lesnar feud because Punk can't accept Lesnar taking credit for his accomplishment.

It sounds crazy to end the streak before a Cena Taker happens but maybe it never happens. WWE gives Punk the honor of ending the streak estlashing him as the ultimate heel. Lesnar kills Taker for the 150,000th time. Taker ends his career with a victory over Lesnar.
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I'm not predicting a Punk victory but I do think it has a much bigger chance of happening then you guys are realizing.

Same storyline as Rock Punk only this one actually has a chance of happening. Brock Lesnar interferes and costs Taker the match.

Right now WWE is floating around 2 possible opponents for Brock Lesnar if he resigns with the company. CM Punk and Undertaker. That's a pretty good indicator that Brock Lesnar might get involved in their match which will be the closing match of Wrestlemania 29 despite the fact that it won't be for the title. Punk and Lesnar feud because Punk can't accept Lesnar taking credit for his accomplishment.

It sounds crazy to end the streak before a Cena Taker happens but maybe it never happens. WWE gives Punk the honor of ending the streak estlashing him as the ultimate heel. Lesnar kills Taker for the 150,000th time. Taker ends his career with a victory over Lesnar.
I can't see Vince ending the streak like that. If he did than might as well let Taker retire, no point seeing him at Mania again if he is 20-1

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The Streak shouldn't end at all. Period.

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I can't see Vince ending the streak like that. If he did than might as well let Taker retire, no point seeing him at Mania again if he is 20-1
I don't see Taker retiring on a loss. Taker's entire career is resurrecting from the dead. That's how I see him leaving the industry.

Whether it's Punk now or John Cena winning via a heel turn I see him losing a match at Mania and then coming back for one last stand Undertaker style.

Maybe he never loses so I'm really just throwing the scenario out there.
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