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Old 04-09-2013, 08:15 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Default Re: Where does CM Punk vs. Taker rank amongst Taker's mania matches

1. vs. HBK - WM25
2. vs. HHH - WM28
3. vs. HBK - WM26
4. vs. Batista - WM23
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Default Re: Where does CM Punk vs. Taker rank amongst Taker's mania matches

Easily top 5. Number 3 for me:

1) Taker/HBK WM25
2) Taker/HBK WM26
3) Taker/Punk WM29
4) Taker/Batista WM23
5) Taker/Edge WM24
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Just me who thought it wasn't as good as people are making out? I love Punk but this was nowhere near his best work.

1. HBK WM25
2. HHH WM28
3. HBK WM26
4. Edge
5. Orton
6. Batista
7. HHH WM27
8. Punk

Punk never sold himself as a threat to the streak. Tried to get cheap heat far too much IMO.
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I'll re-watch it in the next few days and see how it stands on second viewing but for me it was the only "great" thing about this years WrestleMania
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It was the best streak match since Wrestlemania 25 so easily in the top 5 and possibly top 3.
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Wrestlemania 25 -- Just epic
Wrestlemania 26 -- More emotion; told a better story.
Wrestlemania 28 -- Great storytelling with so much history.
Wrestlemania 23 -- I love this match more than most. Perhaps it was Taker winning the world title.
Wrestlemania 21 -- Orton had me believing the streak was over.
Wrestlemania 24 -- Edge tapping out was epic. I plan to re-watch this show soon.
Wrestlemania 29 -- Lots of fun. More about Punk coming of age than Undertaker, though.
Wrestlemania 27 -- Best Match on a terrible card.
Wrestlemania 18 -- Overshadowed by Hogan/Rock, but a fine addition to the streak.
Wrestlemania 12 -- A real good big man match.

I haven't watched Wrestlemania 17 in along time, so I don't feel comfortable listing it. I'm sure it deserves to be ahead of some of the ones above. I never enjoyed the Kane matches as much as most did.
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In terms of personal preference:

1. Taker/Shawn WM 25, *****
2. Taker/Shawn WM 26, ****1/2
3. Taker/HHH WM 28, ****1/2
4. Taker/Punk WM 29, ****1/2
5. Taker/Batista WM 23, ****1/4
(Tie)
6. Taker/Kane WM 14, Taker/HHH WM 17, Taker/Flair WM 18, Taker/Edge WM 24, ****

I consider his match with Triple H at WM 27 overrated and the worst of their three matches at WM. It's a 10:00 brawl with minimal storytelling until the final 10:00 in which that point they had both tired themselves to the point of not doing anything. His match last year in HiaC told a way better story. It dragged at times, but it was undeniably great storytelling that added to the match. Him and Orton did not have enough time, or else that could have easily made it higher. Another high quality match, but due to timing I have it at ***3/4. Taker/Edge is a great match, but lacks that big feel that their match at Summerslam had. A high quality **** WM Main Event, but it just misses out on top as do the other matches.

Shawn is widely regarded as Mr. Wrestlemania, but the truth is Taker is getting there too. They are 1-2 in terms of performance on the big stage. It's a shame creative sucked in the early 90s because Savage should also be high on this list.
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As we know, Taker winning at Mania 29 has extended his streak to 21-0. What do you think his next Mania matches will be? Which one will be his retirement one? Here's what I think will happen/what I wanna see happen (a mix of both):

Wrestlemania 30-Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar (I was wondering if this should happen at Mania 30 or 31, but if it happens at 31,a lot of smart fans won't even doubt Lesnar losing because his contract will be expiring that time anyways, so Mania 30 is better choice.)

Wrestlemania 31-Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar 2 (If their Mania 30 match is a big success, they can always do a rematch)

Wrestlemania 32-Undertaker vs The Rock

Wrestlemania 33-Undertaker vs John Cena (Undertaker's retirement match, he wins and finishes his streak at perfectly rounded 25-0).

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1. Taker vs HBK (WM 25)
2. Taker vs HHH (WM 28)
3. Taker vs HBK (WM 26)
4. Taker vs Edge (WM 24)
5. Taker vs Batista (WM 23)
6. Taker vs HHH (WM 17)
7. Taker vs Kane (WM 14)
8. Taker vs Flair (WM 18)
9. Taker vs Punk (WM 29)
10. Taker vs Orton (WM 21)

Taker vs HHH at WM 27 is sitting in number 11 with Taker vs Diesel at WM 12 following right behind. The WM 27 match is a classic, yes, but not as good as many people make it out to be. Definitely inferior to their first encounter at WM 17.

On topic, Punk did a really good job breaking into the top 10.

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I can't really count both of his encounters with HBK and HHH on the list. One of each match obviously surpassed another.

It retrospect I'd say.

1. Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels (25)
2. Undertaker vs. Triple H (28)

But no idea how to rank his matches with Edge, Orton and Punk respectfully. Actually I'd throw Ric Flair up there too as a dark horse that people will forget about.

Crazy how after 20 years his best matches all take place within his ladder half.
Because for the first half, the function of The Streak was to put over talentless big men nobody cares about.

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In terms of personal preference:

1. Taker/Shawn WM 25, *****
2. Taker/Shawn WM 26, ****1/2
3. Taker/HHH WM 28, ****1/2
4. Taker/Punk WM 29, ****1/2
5. Taker/Batista WM 23, ****1/4
(Tie)
6. Taker/Kane WM 14, Taker/HHH WM 17, Taker/Flair WM 18, Taker/Edge WM 24, ****
I just love how so many people here list Taker/Batista and Taker/Edge near or at the top 5. They're the kinds of matches that grow to be loved as time goes.

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I consider his match with Triple H at WM 27 overrated and the worst of their three matches at WM. It's a 10:00 brawl with minimal storytelling until the final 10:00 in which that point they had both tired themselves to the point of not doing anything. His match last year in HiaC told a way better story. It dragged at times, but it was undeniably great storytelling that added to the match. Him and Orton did not have enough time, or else that could have easily made it higher. Another high quality match, but due to timing I have it at ***3/4. Taker/Edge is a great match, but lacks that big feel that their match at Summerslam had. A high quality **** WM Main Event, but it just misses out on top as do the other matches.
Agreed about HHH/Taker.

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Shawn is widely regarded as Mr. Wrestlemania, but the truth is Taker is getting there too. They are 1-2 in terms of performance on the big stage. It's a shame creative sucked in the early 90s because Savage should also be high on this list.
Ah, Savage. The guy that invented the art of stealing the show at Wrestlemania. Savage/HBK or Savage/Taker at WM 9 would have been an all time great match.

If Taker can go 25-0 by having 4 more classic matches, then he will indeed be a contender for the title of Mr. Wrestlemania. Though, to me and many people, he isn't Mr. Wrestlemania. He is Wrestlemania.

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From what i've seen, top 5 for sure.
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