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WrestleMania 29 was a solid PPV

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#1 ·
why does everyone on here seem to hate it? I liked it.
 
#2 ·
WrestleMania 29 was awful.

We got Fandango going over Chris Jericho for no reals reason other than to serve Vince McMahon's ego (where is Fandango now?), we got Mark Henry go over Ryback in a pointless decision that then led to Ryback turning heel and losing all momentum he had ever had, Jack Swagger AGAIN being pushed out of literally nowhere to come back, win the Elimination Chamber and then compete for the world title at WrestleMania, and two massive DUD matches in Lesnar/HHH and Rock/Cena 2. Then to top it off we had the show close out with Cena as WWE Champion, a sight we've seen for nearly every year since 2006.

The only saving grace was CM Punk vs Undertaker, which should've been the main event and been for the WWE Title in a title vs. streak match.
 
#25 ·
An older talent putting over a highly rated younger talent on the biggest stage is no reason at all.
Fucking smarks man, moan when people aren't put over and moan when they are. Jericho has been at enough WMs, he put over Fandango who for a few months had a good run but creative ruined him.

I have a feeling you're a Jericho, Punk and Bryan smark who hates Cena and only likes to see your indy talents winning. I wonder if it was Ambrose or Rollins going over Jericho if you'd be complaining?
 
#9 · (Edited)
No it wasn't, it was a complete utter shit show disappointment.

Shied vs Sheamus, Orton, Show: it was OK, but there have been quite a few better shield matches.

Jericho vs Fandango: Nothing special at all and a waste of Chris Jericho

Henry vs Ryback: Absolutely terrible

Del Rio vs Swagger: worst WHC match in WM history

Ziggler Langston VS Kane and Bryan: was somewhat good, but nothing memorable

Undertaker vs Punk: Only good thing on the show, but this was highly predictable.

Brock vs HHH: The worst of their series by far.

Rock vs Cena: This one doesn't even come close to being as good as they're first match. Seemed like they didn't even care, and the countering of the finishers were ridiculously repetitive.

When the crowd boos your main event ending that says something right there. Just a very poorly booked mania, that actually could have been GREAT with all the star power they had. Just a mess.

I would say this WM is a top 7 WORST OF ALL TIME.
 
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#3 ·
I agree with you.Except HHH vs Brock Lesnar every other match was entertaining and worth the money.


People hate this Mania because of this:

 
#4 ·
no

I'm usually a lot more open minded than a lot of people on here, but going into WM29 i honnestly felt very little excitment.

Seeing Rock vs Cena rematch didn't have much appeal, bc it was FOR the title, with Rock champion. NO WAY Rock would have won and kept the title, which made it too predictable. What they should have done is:

- Make it NOT for the title, so at least there's a possibility of Cena losing
- or much, much more: Add CM Punk, to make it a triple threat, Punk vs Rock vs Cena. Considering the history of the 3 the previous 12 months, it's definately something that would have sold.


Lesnar vs HHH....are you fucking kidding me? They had just fought last year! You bring Lesnar back, who no one really expected to see back in WWE, and you waste his WM appearance on a rematch? If he has to do rematches, do it outside of mania. His mania feuds should be fresh. Brock should have faced Taker.


Taker vs Punk was a good match, but for some reason i wasn't personally nearly as invested in it as most ppl seem to be. I also didnt like the feud going into it, and i HATED the "qualifying match" Punk had to win to get to face taker. it took away from the mystique.

I honnestly dont remember much of the undercard. I know for a fact none of the undercard had me super excited though - match quality may have been ok, but going into the event i wasn't really excited by any of it. In comparison, this year, some of the undercard matches that people have suggested include Rey vs Sin Cara, Shield vs Wyatts, Cody vs Goldust, or Cody/Goldust in Tag Team turmoil/elimination against other tags for titles...if any of these matches are on the undercard this year, they would have me seriously pumped.


So, to sum up. I do think the build to WM29 was horrendous, and the event was also quite bland.
 
#5 · (Edited)
A WRESTLEMANIA should not be described as a "solid" PPV. It's got to be a GREAT PPV. That's the point. It's supposed to be WrestleMania, not Fully Loaded.

29 basically boils down into being a PPV headlined by two rematches no one really wanted to see, one with an ending that we knew about a year in advance and a laughable build to both that didn't even bother to hint at a different outcome. It had a few decent undercard matches, with one great match (Taker/Punk).


29 was a decent PPV, but an awful WrestleMania.
 
#19 ·
29 was a decent PPV, but an awful WrestleMania.
how many great wrestlemanias has there been though, mania has always been about the occasion, grandeur and spectacle and less about the in-ring quality. fans every year expect a blow-away mania and it never really happens, even now go back and re-watch 17 and you see better stuff on raw these days than took place the first hour of that show.
 
#6 ·
It was a solid PPV, it was just a sub-par Wrestlemania.

- The Shield match was a bit underwhelming from what we had seen previously from The Shield
- Jericho/Fandango was okay, but with Jericho I think I was hoping to be surprised and think it was better than okay
- I don't think anyone was interested in seeing HHH/Lesnar again
- Rock/Cena II was worst than the first one IMO, it had half of the atmosphere because Cena was winning it from day 1 and we'd seen it all before
- Punk/Taker was actually very good and I believe saved the show as Taker has done many times before
- It lacked that Wrestlemania 'feel'. There was an awful lot of them bigging themselves up and saying 'this is how great we are, this is who we are helping, this is how ethical our company is' because there was a mass audience watching. That meant there was no time for any backstage segments or special appearances that Wrestlemania usually gets. Those segments are fun and I missed them at Wrestlemania 29.
- I also feel that this year the open stadium particularly took away from the atmosphere in the crowd. It hasn't been too much of a problem in previous years but I felt it was a bit more noticeable at WM 29.

The rest is obviously forgettable to me. I will say that I don't think it helped following Wrestlemania 28 which was actually a pretty good Wrestlemania that was better than a lot of people thought it was going to be. Even the less hyped matches like Rhodes-Show and Kane-Orton were very decent.

Again, it was still one of the best PPV's of the year, but obviously Wrestlemania is judged, as it should be, on another level.
 
#15 ·
I went to about 6 wrestling shows that weekend and Wrestlemania might have been the worst of them all.

When I look back at Wrestlemania weekends that I go to I usually have a great memory that I remember better then anything. In Atlanta it was Taker kicking out of the Tombstone, in Miami it was The Rock winning and Taker kicking out the SCM/Pedigree combo. Those were the best moments of the trip. Last year my best memory of the weekend was Ziggler winning the title on Raw. If I were to make a list of my top 5 favorite moments I don't think any of them would come from Wrestlemania and that's a problem. Thankfully I lived 2 hours away and I had a great weekend but I had an amazing weekend in spite of going to Wrestlemania not because of Wrestlemania.
 
#16 ·
WM 28 at least had things like the ten man tag match, Orton/Kane, Punk/Jericho, HHH/Taker to make up for things like Cena/Rock. WM 29 didn't have much at all to make up for their embarrassing main event.
 
#20 ·
Anyone who thinks Cena/Rock I and II were bad would have never made it through any era in WWE history. That is your typical high stakes, larger than life atmosphere, between two titans, and it will always satisfy the customer. There is Hogan/Andre, Hogan/Warrior, Austin/Rock II, Hogan/Rock, and Cena/Rock. Any of those is a prototype of the WWE main event style. I am glad I am not the smarky, hating on the top guy kind of fan I used to be. I am starting to "get" it again.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Yet Taker/Punk felt like the bigger match. Also, maybe some people just aren't satisfied with two big names in one ring and have standards. I was fine with matches like Rock/Hogan and even the first bout between Rock and Cena because they actually weren't bad at all. The WM 29 match is indefensible and they blatantly ran out of ideas. Being a big draw is no excuse for having a shit match.
 
#26 ·
No, it was pretty weak.

The Shield/Orton, Show, Sheamus: Decent match but nothing about it screamed Wrestlemania and even though I hated the booking at first, I got over it because they saved Orton's heel turn for a big moment instead.

Jericho/Fandango & tag title match: Complete blurs that I have forgotten about completely by now

Del Rio/Swagger: Really? This match for the World Title? No wonder it was worth less than trash after having headlined WM numerous times. And the match itself was nothing special and crowd cared more about Ziggler.

Punk/Taker: MOTN and the only thing really good coming out of this show.

HHH/Lesnar: Should've never happened to begin with and it remains their worst match together from the trilogy. Just dull with a dead crowd and Lesnar shouldn't have taken another loss.

Cena/Rock: Extremely predictable and no longer the spectacle it was the first time around. At WM28, I was genuinely excited and counting days until the match. This time they just put the title into it which made it even more obvious Cena would win and only saving grace would've been a heel turn. But not even that, we got a boring, long match with a bunch of finisher exchanges and a dead crowd with a forced ending that was received with a chorus of boos.

A complete waste of a Mania with the star power it had and I can only hope they actually move forward this year instead of giving us more rematches. And when I say rematch, I mean recent ones so stuff like Orton/Batista and Taker/Brock don't count should they happen.
 
#29 ·
I personally think it was even worse than WM27, that Mania had Punk/Orton, Cody/Rey, HHH/Taker. WM29 had Taker/Punk and that was it, no other match interested me and no other match delivered. It's amazing how with the incredible talent they had and big names like Brock/Rock they were able to output such a shitty product.
 
#34 ·
WrestleMania 29 is already a forgettable show because it was the most predictable WrestleMania ever. Seriously, the only pick I got wrong was Ryback Vs. Henry because they wanted to throw The World's Strongest Man a bone at the last minute.

Let's go over the card:

The Shield Vs. Team Sheamus - Decent match. I would've been excited for this if they hadn't book a better version of it at the PPV the month before.

Henry Vs. Ryback - Lesnar Vs. Goldberg, but 10x time worse.

Kane / Bryan Vs. Ziggler / Langston - Good match, but way too short.

Fandango Vs. Jericho - Jericho loses to a rookie in his first match. Not only was Jericho's credibility shot for good after this, but Fandango's push was halted making Jericho's rub all for nothing.

Del Rio Vs. Swagger - This was actually a really good match, but unfortunately, nobody cared because Jack Swagger never recovered from the shitty booking he got in 2010. RKO should've challenge ADR instead, but I'm just glad Swagger didn't win like he was originally supposed to. It would've been Booker Vs. Helmsley all over again.

Punk Vs. Undertaker - Best match on the card, but Punk having 100% chance of losing was a buzzkill. Had Punk beaten Undertaker 3 years ago at HIAC like he should've, I would've been way more excited for this match.

Lesnar Vs. Helmsley - A complete waste of everybody's time. Triple H got his win back and nobody gave a shit. We got robbed of Lesnar Vs. Undertaker here.

Cena Vs. Maivia - Everybody hated it, but I didn't care. It was the right thing to do. Besides, this match was an improvement over Once In A Lifetime. Oh yeah and Cena didn't turn heel again, lol.
Had Vince been creative enough to take chances and instead of being cliché and formulaic, I think WM 29 would be remembered more fondly.

- Vic
 
#36 ·
It was a one match show. Taker/Punk was amazing and the best streak match in years, but nothing else was great, and most of the show was mediocre. Not to mention the beyond awful Lesnar/HHH and Ryback/Henry matches, only Mania I'd definitely put below it is WM27.
 
#37 ·
To be honest, I gave it another watch a few weeks ago and it comes off much better than it did when it first aired.

Even the Lesnar/Hunter match looked better on a second viewing. Granted, weapons being allowed and the involvement of both Heyman and HBK greatly helped that match. Brock and Hunter just never seemed to have chemistry.

That main event though, there's just no way to get around it. Rock/Cena 2 was not good. I get that when you have a rematch, you wanna try things differently, but booking the match to be half-back and forth, half-finisher fest really killed the atmosphere, and drained the crowd.

The biggest thing about Mania 29 that failed creatively was just the unexciting booking and predictable outcomes. Mania should be a PPV where you get much more fresh match-ups, not a dumping ground so that HHH and Cena could "get their wins back". Unfortunately, that's what Mania 29 was.

Mania has to be the PPV that makes people say "Shit, we've never seen them face off before," just like what Summerslam gave us last August with Cena/Bryan and Punk/Brock. I hope that's the thought process of WWE right now in finalizing the Mania 30 card.

In the end, Mania 29 was just what some are calling it, a decent PPV, but an awful Wrestlemania. Something that should never be the case.
 
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