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Old 01-15-2014, 09:06 PM   #31 (permalink)
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WrestleMania 29 was awful.

We got Fandango going over Chris Jericho for no reals reason other than to serve Vince McMahon's ego (where is Fandango now?), we got Mark Henry go over Ryback in a pointless decision that then led to Ryback turning heel and losing all momentum he had ever had, Jack Swagger AGAIN being pushed out of literally nowhere to come back, win the Elimination Chamber and then compete for the world title at WrestleMania, and two massive DUD matches in Lesnar/HHH and Rock/Cena 2. Then to top it off we had the show close out with Cena as WWE Champion, a sight we've seen for nearly every year since 2006.

The only saving grace was CM Punk vs Undertaker, which should've been the main event and been for the WWE Title in a title vs. streak match.
This, it was a decent PPV but not at the level a WrestleMania should be at.
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Old 01-15-2014, 09:12 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Yet Taker/Punk felt like the bigger match. Also, maybe some people just aren't satisfied with two big names in one ring and have standards. I was fine with matches like Rock/Hogan and even the first bout between Rock and Cena because they actually weren't bad at all. The WM 29 match is indefensible and they blatantly ran out of ideas. Being a big draw is no excuse for having a shit match.
Taker/Punk did not feel big at all. I understand the die hard fans at Mania were hot for it. But to say it is a bigger match is implying that those two were the reason for the buyrate record that was set that night. People call Rock/Cena II predictable (no, it was just a match where the right man won, I don't hear that excuse for any other matches besides Cena's), Taker/Punk was even more predictable. I understand Punk stole a couple of Hunter's ideas, escaping the last ride by using a weapon (Mania 17) and crossing his arms to pin him thus mocking him (Mania 27).

Also, I am not excusing them for having a shit match, because it was NOT a shit match. Taker/Punk is the first streak match since Mania 22 that I have not watched over again.

Cena/Rock was the typical WWE main event style match. Some like it, some don't. Some get it. Some don't.
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Old 01-16-2014, 03:27 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Taker/Punk did not feel big at all. I understand the die hard fans at Mania were hot for it. But to say it is a bigger match is implying that those two were the reason for the buyrate record that was set that night. People call Rock/Cena II predictable (no, it was just a match where the right man won, I don't hear that excuse for any other matches besides Cena's), Taker/Punk was even more predictable. I understand Punk stole a couple of Hunter's ideas, escaping the last ride by using a weapon (Mania 17) and crossing his arms to pin him thus mocking him (Mania 27).

Also, I am not excusing them for having a shit match, because it was NOT a shit match. Taker/Punk is the first streak match since Mania 22 that I have not watched over again.

Cena/Rock was the typical WWE main event style match. Some like it, some don't. Some get it. Some don't.
Jericho/HHH
Brock/Angle
Benoit/HHH/HBK
Edge/Taker
Miz/Cena

Right, the typical main event style match.

And whatever. More power to you if you enjoyed the match, but what I saw was over ten minutes of two guys exchanging finishing moves. The ONLY interesting spot in the match was Cena going for the people's elbow and changing his mind because of what happened in their first encounter. Undertaker and Punk had special entrances, a better crowd, and the match itself was less repetitive. But again, I guess you saw differently...
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WrestleMania 29 is already a forgettable show because it was the most predictable WrestleMania ever. Seriously, the only pick I got wrong was Ryback Vs. Henry because they wanted to throw The World's Strongest Man a bone at the last minute.

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Henry Vs. Ryback - Lesnar Vs. Goldberg, but 10x time worse.

Kane / Bryan Vs. Ziggler / Langston - Good match, but way too short.

Fandango Vs. Jericho - Jericho loses to a rookie in his first match. Not only was Jericho's credibility shot for good after this, but Fandango's push was halted making Jericho's rub all for nothing.

Del Rio Vs. Swagger - This was actually a really good match, but unfortunately, nobody cared because Jack Swagger never recovered from the shitty booking he got in 2010. RKO should've challenge ADR instead, but I'm just glad Swagger didn't win like he was originally supposed to. It would've been Booker Vs. Helmsley all over again.

Punk Vs. Undertaker - Best match on the card, but Punk having 100% chance of losing was a buzzkill. Had Punk beaten Undertaker 3 years ago at HIAC like he should've, I would've been way more excited for this match.

Lesnar Vs. Helmsley - A complete waste of everybody's time. Triple H got his win back and nobody gave a shit. We got robbed of Lesnar Vs. Undertaker here.

Cena Vs. Maivia - Everybody hated it, but I didn't care. It was the right thing to do. Besides, this match was an improvement over Once In A Lifetime. Oh yeah and Cena didn't turn heel again, lol.
Had Vince been creative enough to take chances and instead of being cliché and formulaic, I think WM 29 would be remembered more fondly.

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Agreed with everything Vic said, except I think we should have seen Cena/Rock/Lesnar as the main event, WWE vs Hollywood vs UFC; it would have brought in a similar buyrate, and brought something that people could get more invested in than a straight-up rematch.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:30 PM   #36 (permalink)
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It was a one match show. Taker/Punk was amazing and the best streak match in years, but nothing else was great, and most of the show was mediocre. Not to mention the beyond awful Lesnar/HHH and Ryback/Henry matches, only Mania I'd definitely put below it is WM27.
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Old 01-16-2014, 02:47 PM   #37 (permalink)
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To be honest, I gave it another watch a few weeks ago and it comes off much better than it did when it first aired.

Even the Lesnar/Hunter match looked better on a second viewing. Granted, weapons being allowed and the involvement of both Heyman and HBK greatly helped that match. Brock and Hunter just never seemed to have chemistry.

That main event though, there's just no way to get around it. Rock/Cena 2 was not good. I get that when you have a rematch, you wanna try things differently, but booking the match to be half-back and forth, half-finisher fest really killed the atmosphere, and drained the crowd.

The biggest thing about Mania 29 that failed creatively was just the unexciting booking and predictable outcomes. Mania should be a PPV where you get much more fresh match-ups, not a dumping ground so that HHH and Cena could "get their wins back". Unfortunately, that's what Mania 29 was.

Mania has to be the PPV that makes people say "Shit, we've never seen them face off before," just like what Summerslam gave us last August with Cena/Bryan and Punk/Brock. I hope that's the thought process of WWE right now in finalizing the Mania 30 card.

In the end, Mania 29 was just what some are calling it, a decent PPV, but an awful Wrestlemania. Something that should never be the case.
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Old 01-17-2014, 11:27 AM   #38 (permalink)
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The predictibility is what made this wm average for many and also the possibility of cena winning.
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Old 01-17-2014, 05:40 PM   #39 (permalink)
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My whole issue with 29 was the lack of theatrics with the main event. No hype promo, no elaborate entrances, no nothing. It was like a RAW match. There was no cool down match since the mixed tag match got cut, so nobody was ready for this. Cena's music just hit and I thought "why the hell is he coming out to cut a promo in the middle of the show?" then he did the whole talk to the camera salute thing and I was "Oh jesus, they're doing this NOW?"

I didn't care. The crowd was dead for it because the pacing was off completely. I didn't mind 29, it just had a horrible ending. WM's with a "9" in it are botchy anyways lol.
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It wasn't a solid PPV, it was absolutely fucking terrible.
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