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Old 11-29-2013, 10:58 AM   #211 (permalink)
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Default Re: John Cena (WHC) vs. Randy Orton (WWE Champion) - TLC MATCH FOR BOTH TITLES

Orton deserves the victory far more, but Cena is still gonna win.
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:43 AM   #212 (permalink)
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Should be an absolutely no way this ends clean. I don't see either winning. A unification match at a small PPV with three weeks build. No chance this ends properly and doesn't carry on.
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Old 11-29-2013, 12:11 PM   #213 (permalink)
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Should be an absolutely no way this ends clean. I don't see either winning. A unification match at a small PPV with three weeks build. No chance this ends properly and doesn't carry on.
They have to make money with these smaller PPVs as well. For that, they need to let big things happen on them occasionally.

You can't leave everything for Wrestlemania, Summerslam, and Royal Rumble. Otherwise, people will just buy those three and ignore the others.
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:38 PM   #214 (permalink)
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I will watch the match (not live, of course) for the lolz, Cena versus Orton at the end of 2013 wrestling each other in a ladder themed match, oh my god... That sounds hilaroius on many levels.
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:52 PM   #215 (permalink)
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Should be an absolutely no way this ends clean. I don't see either winning. A unification match at a small PPV with three weeks build. No chance this ends properly and doesn't carry on.
It's a shame that creative doesn't seem to understand what's going on, which is that the shitty non-finishes they've given us all fall have come home to roost. This should be a really big deal, but nobody with half a brain trusts them to do a real finish here. They've been in late WCW or pick whatever era you feel like TNA mode with booking lately, and because of that nobody trusts them to do actual finishes on PPVs.

I'm sure they'll do something stupid that will further undermine the credibility of the titles.
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:13 PM   #216 (permalink)
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Those non or screwjob finishes don't hurt the buyrates. Look at 98: From Breakdown to Valentines Day Massacre, every PPV had a non or screwjob finish, that's 6 (!) PPV's in a row. And it didn't hurt their buyrates one bit, in fact 99 drew much bigger buyrates than 98. Every other aspect of business was also up in 99.

Those finishes are no big deal in the grand scheme of things. What is a problem are atrocious angles, bad booking, childish characters, silly storylines and just overall lazy writing. These are the reasons for poor buyrates.

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Old 11-29-2013, 08:25 PM   #217 (permalink)
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Haven't read all the pages but everyone seems to expect the guys to grab the other belt. You obviously haven't been watching lately. Surely... SURELY... knowing the state of the product at the moment, hasn't anyone thought that they will just grab the belts they currently hold? Therefore extending the fued to the rumble. It's so lame you know it will happen...
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Old 11-29-2013, 10:52 PM   #218 (permalink)
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If they grab one anothers belt do they both get ANOTHER title reign on their already inflated records?

Oh god wait no it all just came together in my head

They trade titles at TLC making Cena a 15 time champion
Then at RR Cena wins both making him a 16 time champ
Then he loses the title in the EC when Orton screws him over somehow
Then he wins the title back again at WM30 breaking Ric Flair's record

Lord save us all that actually sounds like something these bastards would do
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:01 PM   #219 (permalink)
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if one wins both belts or they swap belts, doesn't the other person still have a re-match clause for the belt they lost?
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if i would be in a big unification match with ladders and chairs involved i couldnt sleep, i wonder how well randy and cena is taking the pressure, it will be big night for sure and only one man can overcome the odds this time
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