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Re: WWE Champion Randy Orton vs. World Heavyweight Champion John Cena - TLC MATCH

I think you guys are all being far too negative. If you remember when Jericho unified the titles in 2001, it was only a month's buildup, so the length of time won't be a factor.

As for the competitors in the match, it's only fair that it be Cena and Orton. These guys are still very much the present top stars of the company, regardless of what the Bryan and Punk marks would have you believe. If anyone was going to face off in a unification match, it should be the two who have dominated the year. Punk hasn't been champion since January, while Bryan didn't have a title reign go past 24 hours. Cena was WWE Champion for five months, while Orton has been WWE Champion on and off since Summerslam. These two had the most successful year in kayfabe, so they have earned the right to be in the match.

In regards to the result, I'm still convinced that Cena will put Orton over on two straight PPV's at TLC and the Royal Rumble, with interference of course. If you look at the buildup over the last few weeks, the focus has been on Orton, rather than the McMahons. They are clearly establishing him as more than a lackey, which is why he is being put into these "against the odds" scenarios that the faces normally face. This reeks of Jericho in 2001-02, when they had Austin and Rock job to him on consecutive PPV's to build him up for WrestleMania.

Plus, you have to look at their history. Cena came out on top in their last feud in 2009, so it is Orton's turn to go over. CM Punk is the only top star yet to feud with the Authority, so expect him to challenge Orton at WrestleMania. As for Cena, he will either face Triple H or challenge Undertaker's streak, preferably the latter.


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Re: WWE Champion Randy Orton vs. World Heavyweight Champion John Cena - TLC MATCH

Two of the most boring talents they have at the moment?

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we're supposed to believe that pushes can start and stop due to business being down, when they're continually ending ppvs with screw job finishes or no finishes at all? It'll end in a draw at TLC guaranteed and that's another ppv ending with a shitty finish to it. Its like they're not giving a fuck and doing it on purpose and they complain that business is down so they blame others? HUH?
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Re: WWE Champion Randy Orton vs. World Heavyweight Champion John Cena - TLC MATCH

No chance in hell this ends clean with one man holding both belts.

My guess is we get some kind of inconclusive finish where they're at the top of the ladder together, Cena grabs one belt and Orton takes the other. Wouldn't surprise me if they swap titles to take Cena off the SmackDown shows again, make him WWE Champion and Orton WHC.

If they do intend to unify these titles I see it happening in a rematch at the Rumble, and as most are predicting I do think it is Orton going over. What that leads to in terms of WM30 I have no idea, Orton in a title match doesn't really do it for me and I can't think of a fresh match that would seem interesting at this point.

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I hope Vacant wins :P

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Actually want cena to win

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No chance in hell this ends clean with one man holding both belts.

My guess is we get some kind of inconclusive finish where they're at the top of the ladder together, Cena grabs one belt and Orton takes the other. Wouldn't surprise me if they swap titles to take Cena off the SmackDown shows again, make him WWE Champion and Orton WHC.

If they do intend to unify these titles I see it happening in a rematch at the Rumble, and as most are predicting I do think it is Orton going over. What that leads to in terms of WM30 I have no idea, Orton in a title match doesn't really do it for me and I can't think of a fresh match that would seem interesting at this point.
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I think you guys are all being far too negative. If you remember when Jericho unified the titles in 2001, it was only a month's buildup, so the length of time won't be a factor.

As for the competitors in the match, it's only fair that it be Cena and Orton. These guys are still very much the present top stars of the company, regardless of what the Bryan and Punk marks would have you believe. If anyone was going to face off in a unification match, it should be the two who have dominated the year. Punk hasn't been champion since January, while Bryan didn't have a title reign go past 24 hours. Cena was WWE Champion for five months, while Orton has been WWE Champion on and off since Summerslam. These two had the most successful year in kayfabe, so they have earned the right to be in the match.

In regards to the result, I'm still convinced that Cena will put Orton over on two straight PPV's at TLC and the Royal Rumble, with interference of course. If you look at the buildup over the last few weeks, the focus has been on Orton, rather than the McMahons. They are clearly establishing him as more than a lackey, which is why he is being put into these "against the odds" scenarios that the faces normally face. This reeks of Jericho in 2001-02, when they had Austin and Rock job to him on consecutive PPV's to build him up for WrestleMania.

Plus, you have to look at their history. Cena came out on top in their last feud in 2009, so it is Orton's turn to go over. CM Punk is the only top star yet to feud with the Authority, so expect him to challenge Orton at WrestleMania. As for Cena, he will either face Triple H or challenge Undertaker's streak, preferably the latter.
I agree with most of your post but no way can anyone stand here and say that Orton as well as Cena are the 2 top dogs, because there not. It's not 2009 anymore, Orton is past his best, actually maybe he isn't but Stephanie and HHH don't allow him to use his full potential. This match should be between Punk and Cena, but when you look at it come Mania time, Punk is the only person that's a top tier superstar that hasn't faced the 'authority" yet so hopefully he gets his chance on a bigger stage in a bigger match.


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* The goal of this match is to have one champion, one undisputed WWE Champion. He said with the brand extension no longer in effect, we only need one champion to represent the company.
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Re: WWE Champion Randy Orton vs. World Heavyweight Champion John Cena - TLC MATCH

Trips screws Cena and Orton retains the WWE title.
So Cena will go down (cause it's John FUCKIN' Cena) as the last World Heavyweight Champion in history.
Which will lead to a feud between Cena and Trips 'til Mania, with Vince been on Cena's side, for the total control of the company or whatever. As Cena would be seen as Vince's face of the company and Orton as H's.
Orton to drop the strap at Mania, probably to Roman Reigns who has a Batista like push.


Is roughly what I think will happen.

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