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Re: What Did Orton Do To Deserve To Have To Tag With Sheamus?

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its the other way around.

Big Show has literally destroyed Sheamus' push. They have never had him job to that loser 3 PPVs in a row. And now he is The Shield's personal jobber
Good. As someone said, if Sheamus had carried on he would have been getting booed out of arenas by now. Being a jobber to The Shield is more than he deserves TBH after his horrendous championship run. I'm hoping he's the one who turns heel at WM and not Orton. Honestly I think Orton would probably be cheered even more for turning on Sheamus and Big Show.



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I can't remember anything interesting he did in the chamber. If he did, I'm sure I'd have memories of it. And it takes more than adding a move to be interesting.

Idk, he was having matches against Cesaro for weeks and none were anything special. He doesn't click with too people. Just Christian. =/ I'd love to be wrong, but...
That's probably because it's hard to remember anything apart from Mark Henry destroying everything in sight when he was there. My point is, Orton did his thing while he was there and was the one who hyped up the already excited crowd. And of course, but adding a move never hurts.

And the reason his matches with Cesaro were nothing special is probably because there's really no reason to care. Cesaro is like Orton's new go-to heel opponent now they've worn out Barrett, Del Rio (a face now) and Ziggler. When you over do it, it just ends up being... nothing special. If we go and do a full career look, he has plenty of opponents he had chemistry with including Benoit, Undertaker, Rey Mysterio, Edge, HBK and occasionally with Cena and Triple H.
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Eh, Cena/Sheamus or whoever could get a crowd excited all they want, but it doesn't make them interesting. Doing his thing isn't exactly what it takes for it either.

And most matches being booked have no real back-story on shows like Raw, but take a guy like DZ, DB or Jericho - they can pull of an entertaining and memorable match with numerous of people and be the talk of the show the next day purely for their match. It's hard to categorize Orton in that same area. Again, he only has good chemistry with very, and I mean, very few people in the ring.

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Sheamus is kind of getting punished, he surpassed Orton as 2 nd biggest babyface of the company all of 2012.

But if you ask me both guys are good. Orton just really needs a heel turn and become more unpredictable.
Please, Orton outpops Sheamus on a weekly basis.

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Eh, Cena/Sheamus or whoever could get a crowd excited all they want, but it doesn't make them interesting. Doing his thing isn't exactly what it takes for it either.

And most matches being booked have no real back-story on shows like Raw, but take a guy like DZ, DB or Jericho - they can pull of an entertaining and memorable match with numerous of people and be the talk of the show the next day purely for their match. It's hard to categorize Orton in that same area. Again, he only has good chemistry with very, and I mean, very few people in the ring.
I guess we have to agree to disagree. I would personally watch an Orton match before any of these, with Jericho being even.

Oh and explain to me what makes someone interesting? I guess you want him to do moonsaults and hurricanranas or something.
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I guess we have to agree to disagree. I would personally watch an Orton match before any of these, with Jericho being even.

Oh and explain to me what makes someone interesting? I guess you want him to do moonsaults and hurricanranas or something.
Nah. Spot-monkeys aren't my type. Just putting on good matches with whomever, and cutting great promos would do. Character development would be nice too. Pretty simple.

But saying you prefer him over Jericho in the ring even, well... I guess... um, we definitely should agree to disagree.

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Everything is formulaic. They're called SIGNATURE moves for a reason and are used damn near every match. It's also the same thing with every wrestler.

This might be the dumbest reason I've heard someone use as their reason for hating a certain wrestler.
Using the same moves, sure. Wrestling the same damn match every week? That's unacceptable.

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Nah. Spot-monkeys aren't my type. Just putting on good matches with whomever, and cutting great promos would do. Character development would be nice too. Pretty simple.

But saying you prefer him over Jericho in the ring even, well... I guess... um, we definitely should agree to disagree.
And what do you consider a good match?

As for Jericho vs Orton, I'm mainly talking about Orton from 2004-2007. I'm such a huge mark for THAT Orton. Everything about him was perfect. Ever since he went bald and got the arm sleeve tattoos, he's just not been the same.

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Using the same moves, sure. Wrestling the same damn match every week? That's unacceptable.
Other than his matches with Barrett, I haven't gotten the "same match" vibe at all. And besides, there's only so much you can do against the same person. Not everybody is gonna innovate like Benoit would in his series with Booker T and I don't think you should expect that either since that's the greatest wrestler of all time we're talking about and an exception not the rule.
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Re: What Did Orton Do To Deserve To Have To Tag With Sheamus?

He got high.

He's boring.

etc etc.

[x] Wade Barrett wins any championship
[x] Dean Ambrose Debuts
[] Damien Sandow wins any championship
[] WHC and WWE Championship are unified
[] Christian wins another main event title
[x] Chris Jericho returns
[x] WWE Championship design is changed
[x] CM Punk vs The Rock

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And what do you consider a good match?
The latest Punk/Cena, Jericho/Punk, etc

I'm more curious as to what you consider a good match since you prefer Orton matches over DZ/DB/Jericho.

Then again, your signature tells me I should just rest my case.

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