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post #41 of 53 (permalink) Old 03-16-2013, 04:22 PM
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Re: Alberto Del Rio and the curse of the babyface in WWE

problem is they're booking him as if the fans are idiots. just having a guy come out saying "'murica is for everyone, ESE!" is not getting over in 2013 when a lot of regions have smark crowds, faces have to be funny and edgy to get over now, not just boy scouts like Cena. Case in point.. if Cena debuted today he would not be the face of the company with his current gimmick that gets him booed by 50% of the crowd.
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His WM entrance is going to be something incredibly cheesy and difficult to like, like some Mexican band playing shitty music.
I doubt the WHC will get a special entrance.
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I think Del Rio could get away with being a nice guy babyface. But Sheamus should be an ass kicker

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Re: Alberto Del Rio and the curse of the babyface in WWE

Here we go again, classic IWC. While some of you sour on guys turning babyface realize that those guys become more attracting to the younger audience. But most of you can never comprehend the value of the younger demographic for the WWE. What you people see as corny can be looked at as entertaining for the younger minds that watch WWE. Take Daniel Bryan for example. The younger audience never gave a crap about him when he was a face, but they started reacting to him when he became "goat face." The younger fans don't react to DB because of in ring talent; they react to him because of his character.


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Re: Alberto Del Rio and the curse of the babyface in WWE

Writers are stuck in the 80's mentality with babyfaces making them all about homemade cookies and milk. Babyfaces these days don't have an edge or a struggle to fight through. I still believe that the anti hero much like in AE is the type of face people connect to. And that is a problem with character.



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Re: Alberto Del Rio and the curse of the babyface in WWE

Don't understand why there's only one *type* of babyface that a wrestler could be in the WWE nowadays. Just like there are many different types of heels, there should be many different types of babyfaces. Hogan, Savage, and Warrior all had different face characteristics. So did Sting, Luger, Steamboat in WCW. Bret, HBK, and Diesel were different during the New Generation. Austin, Rock, Jericho in the AE, Benoit, Cena, Batista, etc were all different in the Ruthless Aggression Era. Now they all seem to be carbon copies of each other and it's no wonder why faces can't seem to get over as well as they did in years past.

I would definitely be ing for an ass-kicker Sheamus (like I was at the beginning of his face turn in mid-2011) rather than a smiley, happy-go-lucky Sheamus whom I'm completely apathetic about.

As for Del Rio himself, it actually doesn't bother me as much since I think this is more natural for him whereas with Cena, he just kept getting blander and staler as the years went by.

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Re: Alberto Del Rio and the curse of the babyface in WWE

The thing is, many sympathize with Swagger and Dirty Dutch's position, but are afraid to tell anyone due to the "you're racist" arguments. Thus, the mocking comedy of Del Rio seems to actually point out that "'maybe they have something there".

95% of people who are against illegal immigrants are against the "illegal" part, not the immigrant. If they chose to come in legally by actively seeking citizenship, then no problem as far as I'm concerned. Welcome to the USA.

But if you're coming across the border illegally, most often, you're bringing a lot of troubles with you. Who knows what disease or drugs come with them? We don't because we don't even know they're here until an incident occurs.

The mocking videos take away from the seriousness of this issue. Not everything is fodder to the comedy gods. As to the canadian bit, I don't know very many griping about it as they usually come for a quick visit.(check around, most often it's to get quality healthcare that socialist free healthcare doesn't deliver. However, since we have the same crap now, watch them crossing the border for this dwindle to nothing). The only illegal stuff from Canada use to be cigarettes or booze during prohibition.

Del Rio as a face has been entertaining, until recently. His moveset was very interesting and his 'latin temper' vs Big Slow made him have a personality. It's still time to stop this nonsense and return to what worked.
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Here we go again, classic IWC. While some of you sour on guys turning babyface realize that those guys become more attracting to the younger audience. But most of you can never comprehend the value of the younger demographic for the WWE. What you people see as corny can be looked at as entertaining for the younger minds that watch WWE. Take Daniel Bryan for example. The younger audience never gave a crap about him when he was a face, but they started reacting to him when he became "goat face." The younger fans don't react to DB because of in ring talent; they react to him because of his character.
Since when do main event faces have to be catered directly to children? when i was young my favorite wrestlers were Stone Cold, The Rock and crow Sting. Kids will cheer for whoever is supposed to be the "good guy" and who everyone else is cheering for. Yes, the younger audience will support cookie cutter Del Rio but there's no point in alienating a large part of your fanbase when said younger audience would support the good guy no matter what his character was like. And now that i think about it, this post goes for Cena and Sheamus as well.
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Re: Alberto Del Rio and the curse of the babyface in WWE

They probably have the same people writing for all the faces, hence they come out similar

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I'm sorry, but for as bad as the wwe manages baby faces, the heels are the ones with the "curse".

Every heel in the company is made to look like a pussy. The exceptions are the guys who play monsters. There's no middle ground in the wwe anymore--for faces and heels alike. The only difference is that the wwe books heels to lose at such a high loss rate, that when they finally win a title, no-one gives a fuck.



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