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Old 11-27-2012, 10:45 PM   #71 (permalink)
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CM Punk was in a worse position then Sandow in 09-10 what happened to him?
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:50 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Orton hasn't done anything relevant in a year and he's still the 3rd biggest star on the roster. (Yes, Vince considers Ryback 3rd atm but Orton is 3rd, 2nd on the face side in crowd reactions)
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* Sheamus beat Dolph Ziggler by DQ in the main event. They fought for a while and went to the floor several times. Sheamus had Ziggler in the Cloverleaf submission when Big Show came out and caused the DQ. Show and Ziggler beat Sheamus down until John Cena ran out for the save. Cena cleared the ring to end SmackDown.

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Old 11-27-2012, 11:00 PM   #74 (permalink)
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CM Punk was in a worse position then Sandow in 09-10 what happened to him?
As somebody who constantly complained, excessively and extensively about Punk's de-push in 09-10, no, it wasn't anywhere NEAR as bad as what Sandow is going through. At least Punk, even though he was a total geek was still a 3 time world champion, had built some semblance of a name for himself and was constantly in high profile matches. Sandow is jobbing on random episodes of Main Event, Raw, SmackDown, and struggling to get on PPV. So far, his only appearances have been in multi mans. That's pathetic.

Besides, WWE THEMSELVES didn't do ANYTHING to remedy the situation with Punk. Punk got over because he did something on his own, he came up with a fake list of grievances that Vince approved for him to air on Raw, then he said what he really wanted, and the people weren't prepared for it, they went apeshit and the rest is history. That won't work again, not to mention, not everybody should be shooting on the company. They aren't just magically, on their own, going to change their opinion of Sandow without cause.

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Ah, is someone upset. It's basic fucking logic dumbass. People will take him more serious in close loss to John Cena than some lame squash win. Believe it or not, Not every fucking fan has the same warped mind that you do that losing to John Cena (the fucking face of the company) and a couple matches that no one will remember in a month (except you) will ruin him.
Oh, really, who did you poll to get this information from? Wake up, you don't get more credible from losing. There's one instance, EVER, in the entire history of wrestling where somebody got more credible by losing. ONE TIME. EVER. This is not a thing that just....happens. I swear to God, people like you are completely to blame for why nobody on this roster gets over. FEED EVERYONE TO THE STARS, IT DOESN'T MATTER, NOBODY REMEMBERS. Yes, it does matter, that's why when they do push somebody, they don't get over because they've been conditioned to not take them seriously. BRILLIANT.

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Otunga? are you kidding me. The only time he was in the ring w/ Cena was when he was Johnny Ace's henchman. He was just a soldier for Laurinaitis. WWE put him against Cena so Cena could one up Laurinaitus. They put Sandow against him to see how he would fare against the face of the company.
Oh, so it doesn't count now that it goes against your argument? Why, how ridiculously convenient. What about Tensai, he sure benefitted from being in the ring with Cena, didn't he?

If I cared enough, I could find a whole list of names that got nothing off facing Cena. You're lucky I really don't want to waste the effort.

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Wow. You're the only person to come out and say "Cody was supposed win but it was changed the day of the event." Where in the blue hell was that even reported? Honestly, for someone who makes fun of people for believing in the dirt sheets, you're either freakin gullible or just making shit up as you go along. But then I guess I shouldn't be surprised. You're the guy who bitched at WWE b/c they didn't debut Ambrose on Raw 1000 b/c an internet report said they MIGHT debut new talent and thout it was a Press Release.
I don't make fun of anyone for believing the dirt sheets, don't know where you got that from. Besides, I only don't believe dirtsheets when there's no evidence. Dirtsheets aren't always wrong, in fact a lot of the times they're right. Need I remind you dirt sheets predicted a massive push for Ryback and the NXT trio being called "The Shield" before the group was announced. That's only two examples of several.

NEVER BELIEVE THOSE LYING DIRTSHEETS, RIGHT?

The only time the dirtsheets really need to be criticized is when they say things like "Triple H is high on Michael McGillicutty", and obvious lie if there ever was one, because it has evidence against it.

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Honestly. You are the only one making a big deal of this. In a month, you will be the only one who will even remember that he lost a couple of matches. Get the fuck over it. When he's losing dark matches, and barely appearing on TV, bitch then.
Well, that shouldn't take long, so I will.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:19 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Eddie Guerrero wasnt given a main event push right away, he wasnt beating the likes of Stone Cold, Rock etc he won the big one, JBL was a fucking joke who struggled to do jack shit, hell he even struggled to be on PPVS sometimes as a tag team. Look how they turned out? You telling me in this day and age its better to be hot shotted instead of earning? I respect the hell out of both those guys cause I grew up with them specially Eddie im not overating the man for his death he was every bit as talented as someone like Sandow but he wasnt given everything on a silver platter like you want Sandow to have he won the light weight, european, tag team, us, intercontinetal first way before the WWE championship, he was given shitty storylines, left to languish in midcard hell without even a slight step up for periods of time but look at him now, his a HOFer.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:23 PM   #76 (permalink)
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OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH, impressive.



Yes, by losing to everybody he faces. Why does he HAVE to lose? Couldn't he just....I don't know, NOT face those guys? You don't see Cesaro taking clean pinfalls every fucking week, do you?



What? That's what booking IS.

How does this match with Cena change how the fans percieve him? Show me evidence, show me fans that say that they take Damien Sandow more seriously because he fought John Cena. Go find me the evidence and don't even try coming back until you do, or otherwise, stop making up such ridiculous BS.

And anyway, it doesn't matter what the fans see Sandow as to begin with because the fans opinions don't matter, all that matters is what Vince thinks. If the fans opinions counted, it would be Daniel Bryan having the year long title reign.



Oh, yes, the "rub". You're right, I completely forgot about all those times David Otunga was in the ring with Cena. Look at how he blossomed into a main eventer.

Oh, wait, that didn't happen.....

Give me a break. You don't get anything from merely being in the same ring as a star. All that matters, all anyone cares about, all anyone remembers, all the company cares about is who wins, who loses. I GUARANTEE you WWE did not book Sandow with Cena because they thought that by doing so, they would help Sandow's career. I absolutely, 100% guarantee it. And let's be honest, beyond anything else, what really, really matters is what happens on PPV, and what happened to Sandow? The first guy eliminated on Team Ziggler, before even Otunga. That's what they think of him. Within 2 to 3 minutes, GONE, and this is PPV. That was Damien Sandow's equivalent of 18 seconds, and it showcases EXACTLY what the company thinks of him.

Anyone "could" go from jobbing to being a world title contender but that simply isn't going to happen. Right now, the sensible MITB pick, based on the consistency of his push would be Cesaro, so I don't know how exactly Sandow's gonna contend, and even if someone else wins, it's not gonna be him.



Sheamus was ALWAYS a golden boy, the only reason he was jobbed out was because he was in contract negotiations. As for Ziggler, Randy Orton is nobody, so who cares? They put people like Barrett over Orton, and look at what kind of grim future he has. Yeah, he got lucky winning MITB because WWE changed their mind on Cody Rhodes winning the day of the show, which was the original plan, he's still not gonna hold it long and this feud with Cena isn't much of a feud, it's only happening because Vickie is involved in a storyline with Cena.



Two wrongs certainly do make a right. You can't justify in ANY way two horrible talents getting main event pushes (especially for the REASONS they're getting it) and one amazing talent being squandered. You just can't.
You're right, he doesn't have to lose but those losses aren't hurting him at all. He isn't losing to people below him like Zack Ryder, Santino, Khali, etc is he? No, he's losing to people that are more credible than him.
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All this Sandow whining is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Dude is still in his first year in the company. He should NOT go over John Cena, should NOT go over Sheamus, should NOT go over Orton, should NOT go over upper carders. Boo hoo he tapped to John Cena, big deal? Cena is the face of the freaking company. I like Sandow very much and think he will be a future guy on the upper card but now is not the time. He needs to work his way up the card.
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at John Cena clearing the ring to end a show he's not even technically on.

Oh those tricky WWE writers...
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He needs to whine anymore? two wins in one night :bryan
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at John Cena clearing the ring to end a show he's not even technically on.

Oh those tricky WWE writers...
To be honest, there really isn't a brand split anymore.
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