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Old 10-17-2012, 04:12 AM   #181 (permalink)
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So I thought kofi was getting buried? Lol at the people who said that. Nice to see him pick up the win hopefully this feud carries on and kofi does not just float around like last time he held the ic title
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:13 AM   #182 (permalink)
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Seems like he lost because of the lumberjacks anyway. At least he is back to main eventing and putting on good matches. Their is still plenty of time for him to win the World Title.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:15 AM   #183 (permalink)
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I'm just saying what the facts are. WWE gives people they appreciate world titles. That's what happens. This isn't exactly a shock.
Do you really care what the WWE hands their employees if you enjoy the performer/s?

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They're called midcarders for a reason. They're valued for other things. You can't have an entire roster of main eventers.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:19 AM   #184 (permalink)
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O.K, I know this was several pages ago but I'm having a morning read over breakfast. You would rather watch a show because it gets ratings, then because it's good? I'm sure I'm poorly phrasing your opinion but it seems like your taking the wrong approach to entertainment when you wont watch a show that is entertaining because it isn't mainstream enough.
A WRESTLING show? Yes. I want my wrestling to be relevant, because it's based on accomplishments and revenue. I'll watch any other regular tv show, popular or not.

Besides, every wrestling show only has a couple wrestlers I like on it anyway, I never enjoy the whole show.

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Also you said something about it only matter if you win or lose, which I also massively disagree with, John Cena lost to Punk at MitB but you can hardly say Cena was being jobbed out or whatever.
Cena is the face of the company and has 27 thousand world titles and wins all the time, Barrett has ZERO and he will retire with ZERO. That is not the same thing. Everybody has to lose some matches, Cena included.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:33 AM   #185 (permalink)
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Do you really care what the WWE hands their employees if you enjoy the performer/s?
YES. How clear can I make that? I want to see the people I enjoy get REWARDED and the people I don't enjoy FAIL. Yet everywhere I turn on WWE tv, it's the exact opposite with the exception of CM Punk. It's kinda hard to enjoy what's going on when the good performers are losing and floundering in the midcard and the garbage like Ryback and Sheamus get everything handed to them because they work out with Triple H or Vince gets a boner when he looks at them.

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They're called midcarders for a reason. They're valued for other things. You can't have an entire roster of main eventers.
Yeah, sure, valued for other things. Whatever. You can still give midcarders a world title reign here and there and then have them go back to being midcarders. Jericho made a career out of that. THAT shows value, not what they're doing with fucking Barrett, just needlessly having him lose to Sheamus and holding him back even though he proved conclusively that he's 100% capable of handling the top heel spot on Raw, and he did this with no television experience. Yet Khali and Swagger have had a better career than he has.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:46 AM   #186 (permalink)
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YES. How clear can I make that? I want to see the people I enjoy get REWARDED and the people I don't enjoy FAIL. Yet everywhere I turn on WWE tv, it's the exact opposite with the exception of CM Punk. It's kinda hard to enjoy what's going on when the good performers are losing and floundering in the midcard and the garbage like Ryback and Sheamus get everything handed to them because they work out with Triple H or Vince gets a boner when he looks at them.
Rewarded with what? More air time for you to enjoy them?

I don't see why you'd have a problem with guys playing the game of politics in a politically-laden environment.

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Yeah, sure, valued for other things. Whatever. You can still give midcarders a world title reign here and there and then have them go back to being midcarders. Jericho made a career out of that. THAT shows value, not what they're doing with fucking Barrett, just needlessly having him lose to Sheamus and holding him back even though he proved conclusively that he's 100% capable of handling the top heel spot on Raw, and he did this with no television experience. Yet Khali and Swagger have had a better career than he has.
Of course, You have more established mid carders who float around that region and occasionally go higher to fulfil main-event roles on occasion. You have others that a strictly a feature of the show's 'middle' crux, while there are the rest of them who aren't featured too often on the main platforms.

It's a better position to lose to the unbeatable world champion than it is beating Justin Gabriel, although I agree that Barrett's a floater at the moment with no particular role.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:02 AM   #187 (permalink)
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Rewarded with what? More air time for you to enjoy them?

I don't see why you'd have a problem with guys playing the game of politics in a politically-laden environment.
And with a world championship.

I'm not blaming them for using politics, I'm saying I don't want them to use it because I can't stand these fuckers, they're horrible performers, and because they're horrible performers, I don't want them to get world titles, I don't want them to get wins, and I don't want them to get more money. Especially over the people who actually deserve them. I never said it was their FAULT for playing politics, I GET it.

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Of course, You have more established mid carders who float around that region and occasionally go higher to fulfil main-event roles on occasion. You have others that a strictly a feature of the show's 'middle' crux, while there are the rest of them who aren't featured too often on the main platforms.
Exactly, and those are the ones WWE is not high on. They can't be high on everyone, I understand that, so they place them into the unimportant roles they have to fill up. One such person happens to be the guy who should alternate Raw's top heel spot with Punk, and is being critically ignored for no other reason than because of where he was born.

Why do you watch? I just have to ask, since you're giving me the impression that you think literally nothing that ever happens matters. It doesn't matter who main events, it doesn't matter who midcards, it doesn't matter who jobs, everybody is just in a role and it makes no difference who does what. If I've said something you don't agree with, then correct me because reading this conversation, that's what I'm getting from you, and I don't know why somebody with that mentality would have any desire to follow a product where you don't care about who goes where.

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It's a better position to lose to the unbeatable world champion than it is beating Justin Gabriel, although I agree that Barrett's a floater at the moment with no particular role.
No, it isn't a better position, it's the SAME position. There are only 2 positions in WWE, world champions and non world champions. Barrett has never had a shot with the world title, therefore, nobody takes him seriously and never will unless Vince lets go of whatever petty grudge he's always had against English talent (and has prominently displayed this on tv with things such as Pirate gimmicks and humiliating William Regal, one of the greatest all around performers in history almost as badly as Jim Ross) and puts him in the spot where he belongs, with the title.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:35 AM   #188 (permalink)
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Here we go, start of burying Miz again. I think in about time we see our "awesome guy" jobbing again to Santino and Brodus.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:45 AM   #189 (permalink)
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Pyro, they can't ignore him, regals an exception to the rule you cant deny vince has pushed him. remember when he was king of the ring and GM? Did Vince plant drugs on him so he could suspend him? No he fucked up didnt he? That was his second violation too, Randys had his second violation recently and his floating now. Wade is in a better position then Regal, younger, dare I say has more charisma and just just better on the mic.

Now if you have proof that regal didnt screw up his major push towards what looked like a WWE championship I will agree Vince is a bigotted piece of shit who needs to retire before he kills his creation.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:47 AM   #190 (permalink)
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The first post in this thread is completely weird, what has Chavo got to do with Wade...Can someone explain what the actual spoiler is?

Edit: Nvm found out, well that's a disappointment, are the writers of smackdown and raw the same? because losing clean after two very good matches seems pretty stupid.
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