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Re: How long can a Ziggler WHC reign be?

The OP pointed the fact that cena failed to cashing in this year, but i think ziggler is gonna fail too.

He's already a heel, they can't use the cashing to make him a heel( bryan, punk, kane). They're clearly not telling a story about this briefcase (Bryan cashing) and they clearly don't see him as a main eventer (no mic time, Miz had plenty ).

I think that they're gonna use ziggler to make sheamus looks even stronger (even mitb can't beat him) and that's sad.
Or maybe jericho (we know that he will comeback during mania season) will screw him to set a match at mania.
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Re: How long can a Ziggler WHC reign be?

I really want Dolph Ziggler to become World Champion. I've just about had with the Indy people. They think they can come into the WWE, mind you it is the biggest wrestling promotion in North America, and they want to be big stars, bigger than J.R.'s tummy. Well hey Indy guys, this aint' a trashy smelly high school gymnasium now is it. You have to actually do more than be spot monkies. You have to do promos that are actually good, you have to put asses in seats, at least more than 50 chairs, which is what you all are used to. And you have to draw a crowd, at least more than 100 people, which are the only people who want to watch Indy wrestling. You see WWE your company is failing. If you would just bring in some 6'2 250 pound muscle men and put the belts on them, we wouldn't have this problem now would we? But no, the WWE has to be run by a bunch of little french fries from McDonalds.
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Re: How long can a Ziggler WHC reign be?

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I really want Dolph Ziggler to become World Champion. I've just about had with the Indy people. You have to do promos that are actually good, you have to put asses in seats.
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Re: How long can a Ziggler WHC reign be?

I'd want him to get a long title run,But tbh I'd think he'd only last a month or abit more.

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You see WWE your company is failing. If you would just bring in some 6'2 250 pound muscle men and put the belts on them, we wouldn't have this problem now would we? But no, the WWE has to be run by a bunch of little french fries from McDonalds.
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Anyway, I'm a little concerned about Ziggler. They obviously don't want to pull the trigger on him and keep Vickie attached to him for whatever reason other than this fear that he won't gain heat. Let the guy develop his mic skills with live promos and don't have Vickie turn the crowd sour before he arrives after her nightly screeching on the mic.

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Re: How long can a Ziggler WHC reign be?

Miz and Del-Rio main evented WM 27, Ziggler would be an improvement but yeah i still think its a bad idea. No need to force new main eventers into WM main events unless they're actually really over and something big, Ryback might do.

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Re: How long can a Ziggler WHC reign be?

From this impending title reign? Couple months, maybe. They don't have the faith in him and they're not even trying to make it look like they do.


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Re: How long can a Ziggler WHC reign be?

So basic gist is that he'll hold it about 4 months, which is O.K, but honestly, if he doesn't defend it at WM or Summer Slam I can't help but feel it's a filler reign. O.K but insubstantial. Then again substantial-reigns requires good booking and as has been established, he isn't. It was less then 6 months ago he was getting beaten at PPV's by Clay.

I do agree partially agree about him maybe not being ready. The wrestler is ready I think, the current character though would struggle since he is a very comedic character by nature. Not Santino worthy, but he has lots of comedic moments. Feels a shame.

As for me mentioning Barrett in the OP, I had just watched 2011 EC and he was booked pretty strong there, and he hasn't exactly been booked as too weak just yet, just directionless. I just wanted an example and he came to mind.


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Re: How long can a Ziggler WHC reign be?

I'd really like for him to turn face, I just don't want him a cheesy Sheamus/Cena type face.
The guy is hilarious when he's free off script. And I think winning the WHC would give him reason to drop Vickie and turn face.

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Re: How long can a Ziggler WHC reign be?

I full expect Dolph Ziggler to cash in his Money In The Bank at Hell In A Cell which is why The Big Show has been thrown into a feud with Sheamus. The Big Show can lose but dominate the match and destroy Sheamus after the match which would then see Dolph Ziggler cash in and allow Sheamus to still look strong in losing the World title. The fact that Dolph Ziggler has no match at Hell In A Cell and is just having matches on Raw and SmackDown with no storyline or direction all points to an imminent cash in.

As for how long Dolph Ziggler will reign as World champion though is a harder question but personally i'd be shocked if it lasted past The Royal Rumble as i fully expect either Sheamus again or Randy Orton to win it at The Royal Rumble and then defeat Dolph Ziggler in the rematch at Elimination Chamber. That would then set up one of either Sheamus/Barrett, Orton/Barrett or even Sheamus/Orton at WrestleMania 29 for the World title with Wade Barrett winning if he is involved in the World title match and Sheamus winning if it's Sheamus/Orton.

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