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Old 11-16-2012, 11:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: When Orton turns heel, will he be a useles cowardly one like Ziggler, ADR, Punk..

Yes he will

They feel the need to turn every heel into a coward. Orton was like that when he was heel last time.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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He won't be turning heel. He's one of the biggest stars in the WWE and WWE need those.
I think that was the reason they turned Miz face, and pushed Ryback to the moon. They realized the lack of Faces that the roster has currently, and that Orton is much better off as a Heel.

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He gonna turn coward when he confront faces like Cena, Sheamus or Ryback.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was referring to. We need a top Heel that doesn't run away and back off from fights against the likes of those three. Even Big Show backs away from a fight with Sheamus, which makes it look ridiculous.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Default Re: When Orton turns heel, will he be a useless cowardly one like Ziggler, ADR, Punk.

Oh my god, this fucking thread again. How many times will it take to toss it into your slow heads that heels can't be booked like faces? As you said, guys like Del Rio and Show have their moments of clean victories, but they are the bad guys, they NEED heel tactics to get the heat. Same with Punk, i'm actually enjoying his reign, i knew he would use heelish tactics but who gives a fuck, he has a one year logn reign and will headline the Rumble with Rock, plus as a heel he is much more entertaining. 'The heels winning clean All the time' IWC wet-dream needs to go away, get over it, for casuals it needs to be this way, otherwise they get confused and have no idea who to cheer or boo for.

Also, its not even like WWE isn't doing it. Big Show beat Sheamus clean at HIAC. Punk almost beat Sheamus clean at WWE Main Event premiere. They are not stupid, they know sometimes heels need to win clean too, but most days if they are on top and not even using heel tactics, they will get cheered, not booed like they're meant too.
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Probably, that seems to be the way WWE treats their heels these dyas.
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Default Re: When Orton turns heel, will he be a useless cowardly one like Ziggler, ADR, Punk.

So far Barrett hasn't been a cowardly heel since his return, so it could be done.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Orton will be gold as a heel. At least more useful.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:47 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Default Re: When Orton turns heel, will he be a useless cowardly one like Ziggler, ADR, Punk.

LOL.

He is going to be the exact same cowardly, useless, whining Heel that he was back in 2007-09 with still keeping his sadistic character in tact. You already know deep down that is going to happen, there is no chance someone like Orton is going to be some up standing Heel that never back down.

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Oh my god, this fucking thread again. How many times will it take to toss it into your slow heads that heels can't be booked like faces? As you said, guys like Del Rio and Show have their moments of clean victories, but they are the bad guys, they NEED heel tactics to get the heat. Same with Punk, i'm actually enjoying his reign, i knew he would use heelish tactics but who gives a fuck, he has a one year logn reign and will headline the Rumble with Rock, plus as a heel he is much more entertaining. 'The heels winning clean All the time' IWC wet-dream needs to go away, get over it, for casuals it needs to be this way, otherwise they get confused and have no idea who to cheer or boo for.

Also, its not even like WWE isn't doing it. Big Show beat Sheamus clean at HIAC. Punk almost beat Sheamus clean at WWE Main Event premiere. They are not stupid, they know sometimes heels need to win clean too, but most days if they are on top and not even using heel tactics, they will get cheered, not booed like they're meant too.
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:56 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Default Re: When Orton turns heel, will he be a useless cowardly one like Ziggler, ADR, Punk.

TBH the only difference between him and half the heels on the roster even now is that he's booked in feuds against heels. If he started feuding with like Rey or Sheamus (took me forever just to come up with two top-ish faces, jesus) he wouldn't have to change his character at all.

Trying to remember who the hell is a face right now just made me realize how many people are in the middle of heel or face turns or playing a tweener character right now. Wow.
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:30 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Default Re: When Orton turns heel, will he be a useless cowardly one like Ziggler, ADR, Punk.

you guys are serious right? his whole gimmick is based on not being a coward. that's why he went over as a heel in the 1st place. and orton has passion when it comes to being a heel, so no, he won't let it be like that.
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Old 11-17-2012, 05:39 AM   #20 (permalink)
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He is going to be cheered unless he acts cowardly.
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