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Was this the ending all along?

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#1 ·
Was Rollins cashing in on his MITB to become the new champ the plan all along (while building up Reigns a little)

Or was it switched because of the backlash when Reigns won the rumble?
 
#5 ·
:HA

Of course not. However, they made a very good decision last night. Roman and Brock both looked strong, while the right guy was awarded the title. (I hated Roman smiling the whole time though...)
I agree. No chance in hell this was the original plan. Reigns losing the crowd from Rumble on caused this to happen. He never should have been booked to win The Rumble or go over Bryan clean. It did some evident damage to him. The crowd's response at Mania is testimony to that fact.
 
#6 ·
No, no way.

Vince's wet dream was Reigns doing what Rollins did, obviously no cash in just a clean win over Lesnar.

As soon as the crowds and everything went south doubt was in they're minds no doubt.

They made the perfect decision in the end.
 
#8 ·
According to Triple H when he was on Stone Cold's podcast, they will change plans based on crowd reaction. So I really doubt this was the plan all along. I'm pretty sure Vince changed his mind a million times before the actual decision was made.
 
#13 ·
There's no way I could believe this was the plan the whole time. The Lesnar vs Reigns had been rumoured for a year, before Rollins even won the MITB, plus Reigns is the suppose next top star in WWE.

The call was probably made some time after RAW when Reigns got boo'd heavily.



Extreme Rules was my prediction for when Rollins would cash in. I'll admit I thought Rollins would likely lose his cash in, so they could keep the belt on Reigns.
 
#10 ·
no way this was the original plan. Knowing Vince I have a feeling they did not change until he heard the boos at the hall of fame
:vince5
 
#11 ·
I think it may have been planned for a while, only because if you put yourself in the mind of the Seth Rollins character that is exactly the moment he would cash in. And if he'd lost from that position it would have been a burial.
 
#12 ·
Nah I am pretty sure they called an audible at some point, glad they did through.
 
#14 ·
My guess is they switched it up. The crowd changed his mind. He's very stubborn, but not stupid.
 
#15 ·
I'm glad they changed their minds about it. Reigns would have ruined the finish of the show.

Seth was the better option, in my opinion.
 
#17 ·
Wouldn't shocked me if the plans were changed at some point between Rumble & Now. Hell even Fastlane and now. It's been clear since pretty much the Summer that E saw Reigns as the next face of the company so him winning at Mania was always on their radar and I have no doubt that it would have happened had the fans not turned on him.
 
#20 ·
No way was it the plan all along. Actually if you re-watch the Raws, I bet you could spot the week where they changed it. Did you notice Roman Reign's part on the show the last few weeks got increasingly smaller and Seth's got increasingly bigger? With Seth actually main eventing most of the last few Raws.

I think it was between March 2nd and 9th, before the March 9 Raw, the Raw Rollins and Orton were in a handicap match with Reigns. Reigns looked like a side attraction that week and I think at stage they had changed it.
 
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#22 ·
It certainly wasn't the plan all along. You generally don't want to have a kind of screwy finish to the biggest match of the entire year.

But I don't think it was exactly a last minute change either.


I'd say that the Rollins cash-in was already one idea on the table as far back as Fastlane (if not earlier). They certainly didn't want to get themselves out of the problem in a fashion too similar to the previous year, so they decided to just stay the original course, but with a twist at the end, rather than to change the entire road.


I expect Rollins' cash-in was originally planned for Extreme Rules, and they just brought it forward in order to book themselves out of the hole they were in.
 
#24 ·
It may very well be open to interpretation as far as what "the plan" is at any given point ... I don't think it's an absolute thing where Vince/HHH/Steph/whoever sit down on Jan. 31 and say "These are the matches and this is how they're going to end."

I think "the plan" is always more flexible than that, or at least usually ... they knew Cena vs. Rock II for a year and probably the outcome was fixed, but may not have been 100 percent set in cement until a few months out (injuries, etc., could have played into it, for instance). And I don't think they changed "the plan" on the fly at WM30 to have Brock win, I think that was a call VKM made on the spot and the winner hadn't been decided before that -- in other words, it wasn't "the plan" that Taker win and that got changed, there was no "plan" until Vince made the call.

I do believe there is a new dynamic after last year's "DB takeover" by the fans: WWE is doing what politicians and governments do, sending out "trial balloons" where they leak a match or a finish or a "plan" for WM ... and see what kind of reaction it gets. If the fans like it, great. If not, they do actually "listen" to the audience and adjust.

But I also remember a "newz" story (by Meltzer, I think?) saying that the writers were being kept completely in the dark on the Brock-Roman main event. That could have been because the plan was never set it stone until late in the process, or it could have been because Vince/HHH/Steph/whoever wanted to keep the Seth cash-in from being linked and they had at the very least kept that as a wild card all along.

And it could well be that there were several "plans" ... some scenarios dependent upon whether Brock re-signed or went back to MMA ... and the "plan" was to pick one of those "plans" after Brock's future status was clear.
 
#25 ·
Heres what I think. I believe rollins was going to cash in at WM no matter what. I heard jbl on more than one occasion say "weve never had a MITB cash in at WM". That seemed to be the plan from the get go when rollins won MITB. The actual way it went down could always change. There was definitely more than a couple ways rollins could cash in last night.
 
#26 ·
I honestly think Brock Lesnar's contract signing abruptly changed the outcome of this match. I hope Seth Rollins aligns himself with Paul Heyman now :DDD
 
#30 ·
See, I think the plan was a cash in at WM ever since Rollins got the briefcase.

You make the "future" of the WWE at Wrestlemania with one of those "Great moments".

Would the style of the cash in have changed if fan reactions were different? Sure.. it just so happened the stars kind of aligned with the mid-match cash in, instead of a post-match cash in this time around.
 
#31 · (Edited)
I honestly think the plan was for Reigns to beat Lesnar and then beat Rollins immediately with a cash-in attempt. That plan was scrapped when Reigns was mercilessly booed at the RR and then the following few Raws, and of course, Fast Lane. I became pretty sure that Reigns would not win once the news about Lesnar's new contract came out.

Rollins deserves the WHC more than Reigns, but I still feel that both Rollins and Reigns should have IC title runs for a while before ever competing for the WHC.

Last night's ending sets up some interesting stuff though... Lesnar is going to be pissed and he probably has a rematch clause.

Orton beat Rollins so he may challenge for the title.

Fatal Four Way with Rollins, Laser, Orton, and *sigh* Reigns?

The only ending that REALLY pisses me off is HHH going over Sting.
 
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