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Wins and Losses really don't matter in WWE, they should but they don't. Carmella has been put in major storyline after storyline yet still can't get over. Becky gets over with much less.
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Wins and loses do matter.
The notion that wins and loses don't matter is just a myth created by the proponents of today's 50/50 booking that plagues 99% of the roster.
If wins and loses don't matter then guys like Cena, Roman, Sasha and Charlotte would lose a lot more often.

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Yikes, Becky gets announced for a big match and completely outclasses Alexa on Talking Smack and were already in doomsday mode? I mean I get that shes probably gonna lose next week due to some fuckery but at least then shes gonna move onto Mickie and have some good matches.

Theres too much else to respond to but c'mon guys, shes not gonna be the next Nattie. If nothing else, Becky is like overdosing on charisma compared to her.




I see your overall point but I kinda think you're way off base here. Shes being paid (quite a lot, I'm guessing) to wrestle on TV every week. Now I'm not in her head, so I dont know for sure, but do you think that 5 years ago Rebecca Quin thought that would be even remotely possible? The woman bounced around from career path to career path to an almost comical degree for years, because she thought she couldnt do the one thing that she actually wanted to do.

Now sure, maybe she's not super thrilled with how shes been booked in the past 12 months, but shes still living her dream man. I dont think were at the point yet where we need to start questioning her motivation or blaming her for signing to wrestle there when if she didnt do that she'd still probably be doing stunt work.
Becky wasn't announced for a big match, by any means. She got this match at SDL to keep her away from the PPV. Meanwhile the Raw women's championship is defended at RR. And outclassing Alexa on the mic only to lose next week solidyfies her as a babyface who talks a lot and then gets her ass kicked for it, just like it happened before TLC, BG, WM etc.

It's not that I'm "not thrilled" about her booking, I'm fucking insulted to the fucking bone by her booking. Nothing has ever made me hate wrestling this much than the last months of her career, and the constant narrative that hard work and dedication doesn't mean shit fucked up my mood for legit weeks, as my life wasn't going perfectly either. If it wasn't for NJPW I wouldn't even be a fan right now, and I was disabled from enjoying the career of my favourite wrestler I actually used to care about.

Now that I think about it, nevermind the Alexa feud, Becky's probably gonna lose to Mickie aswell, won't she? Nikki is clearly being set up to feud with Alexa after the Rumble and it only makes sense for her to win the title at WM, as Alexa retaining would accomplish nothing. And where do we go from there? We have Carmella, who Nikki already feuded with and won, Alexa who will drop to her, Nattie who already lost with Nikki aswell, and Mickie. They could turn Becky which would be stupid, or push Mickie for the title, which I'm afraid is more likely to happen.

They can't have Becky win against Mickie and then keep her away from the title picture, they can't use any other women, and I don't see (and don't want to see) Becky turning.
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The problem is, don't have your arrogant bully heel constantly call your babyface a "loser who doesn't deserve to be champion" if you're then going to go out there and prove her RIGHT. Because that's what this entire feud has been about.

Alexa insults Becky and talks about how her title win as a fluke and she isn't really worthy. And how Becky wouldn't have won at all if Alexa had still been in the match. And then pretty much every week after that, the booking/writing proves Alexa right. She almost always gets the upper hand on Becky during their physical confrontations (which is ridiculous BTW given how much smaller she is). She constantly humiliated and punked out Becky. She got to play the "I got screwed over" card after their first title match, so Becky's one successful title defense was a dirty win. And then in their next title match, on the PPV, she wins and proves herself right yet again.

And the very few times that Becky gets to win, she never gets to enjoy because something always happens to ruin it for her.

And as for "well losing constantly can get you more over." Well that hasn't worked for Dolph Ziggler, or Sami Zayn, or Sasha (because she loses in the biggest moments a lot as well), or even Bayley either. So yeah, unless your Daniel Bryan, this philosophy is "problematic" to say the least.
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Becky wasn't announced for a big match, by any means. She got this match at SDL to keep her away from the PPV. Meanwhile the Raw women's championship is defended at RR. And outclassing Alexa on the mic only to lose next week solidyfies her as a babyface who talks a lot and then gets her ass kicked for it, just like it happened before TLC, BG, WM etc.

It's not that I'm "not thrilled" about her booking, I'm fucking insulted to the fucking bone by her booking. Nothing has ever made me hate wrestling this much than the last months of her career, and the constant narrative that hard work and dedication doesn't mean shit fucked up my mood for legit weeks, as my life wasn't going perfectly either. If it wasn't for NJPW I wouldn't even be a fan right now, and I was disabled from enjoying the career of my favourite wrestler I actually used to care about.

Now that I think about it, nevermind the Alexa feud, Becky's probably gonna lose to Mickie aswell, won't she? Nikki is clearly being set up to feud with Alexa after the Rumble and it only makes sense for her to win the title at WM, as Alexa retaining would accomplish nothing. And where do we go from there? We have Carmella, who Nikki already feuded with and won, Alexa who will drop to her, Nattie who already lost with Nikki aswell, and Mickie. They could turn Becky which would be stupid, or push Mickie for the title, which I'm afraid is more likely to happen.

They can't have Becky win against Mickie and then keep her away from the title picture, they can't use any other women, and I don't see (and don't want to see) Becky turning.
well yeah, obviously you do, but the post I quoted was about you turning that booking into some weird narrative about how Becky herself is probably miserable and all that. Everything else, I mean yeah, none of its great, and I hate that shes not presented as the star she should be, but thats not what I was talking about really.
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well yeah, obviously you do, but the post I quoted was about you turning that booking into some weird narrative about how Becky herself is probably miserable and all that. Everything else, I mean yeah, none of its great, and I hate that shes not presented as the star she should be, but thats not what I was talking about really.
OK, fair enough, but when I put myslef in Becky's shoes, I don't see why she wouldn't be distressed over what's happening with her in wwe. After being a great employe, working hard and working a lot, being a safe worker that always deliveres, praised by a lot of people both backstage and outside of the company leads to no reward, whereas less deserving take her spotlight continuosly.

And continuosly is the key word, because I could take her getting screwed over once or twice, but it's the only thing that happens since the beginning. I cannot possibly believe that it sits right with her.

Sorry for all those depressing posts earlier, but I couldn't keep this in anymore.

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OK, fair enough, but when I put myslef in Becky's shoes, I don't see why she wouldn't be distressed over what's happening with her in wwe. After being a great employe, working hard and working a lot, being a safe worker that always deliveres, praised by a lot of people both backstage and outside of the company leads to no reward, whereas less deserving take her spotlight continuosly.

And continuosly is the key word, because I could take her getting screwed over once or twice, but it's the only thing that happens since the beginning. I cannot possibly believe that it sits right with her.

Sorry for all those depressing posts earlier, but I couldn't keep this in anymore.
I understand your frustration, I've realized what a true monster WWE and BS company they are the moment I saw them treat Zack Rhyder the way they did..maybe I should have realized it sooner, but that's the reality of it.. the company doesn't give a fuck about grabbing the brass ring, it's BS when they tell the performer " you need to step " " you need to go to Vince and present your ideas" "you make the best of what they give..you find a way", all that stuff, all that stuff is BS. WWE is Vince McMahon's playground, in a weird way, I understand him, he's a billionaire with tons of money and no competition, he puts out the product HE ENJOYS, and doesn't give a fuck about anyone else. I understand because hey, if I was in charge, I'd make Becky be the godamn champion for a year and undefeated.

When many guys can stay over despite terrible booking like Dolph and Ambrose for a huge while, it's amazing and I consider a much better accomplishment to be over with shit booking than being handed opportunities/moments/titles.

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OK, fair enough, but when I put myslef in Becky's shoes, I don't see why she wouldn't be distressed over what's happening with her in wwe. After being a great employe, working hard and working a lot, being a safe worker that always deliveres, praised by a lot of people both backstage and outside of the company leads to no reward, whereas less deserving take her spotlight continuosly.

And continuosly is the key word, because I could take her getting screwed over once or twice, but it's the only thing that happens since the beginning. I cannot possibly believe that it sits right with her.

Sorry for all those depressing posts earlier, but I couldn't keep this in anymore.
I'm just basing this off of the type of person she seems to be, I dont actually know of course, but I dont think that this kinda stuff bothers her. I mean, theres like a dozen women in the world that are wrestling on TV like she does, and only half of them really have anything to do consistently, and shes in that half dozen. I cant even imagine what that must be like for her, considering where shes come from and what shes been through.

Like, just look how excited she is about being in a steel cage match. Look at how happy she looks in almost every single picture of her that pops up in this thread. I think shes perfectly happy to live her dream, travel the world, work with her friends, and be a role model to thousands of young girls. That doesnt mean she doesnt want more or is perfectly content with her booking, just that I think at this point she probably knows how to take the good with the bad.
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Again, if next Tuesday is the end of their feud they better hope Alexa gets booed or this could get hilarious. The Royal Rumble match is going to take around an hour so I don't think they will have a Smackdown women's championship match at the Royal Rumble.

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