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you mean "bullshit" the pokemon? That thing was unfair. I used it and loved, don't get me wrong; but it's Spc. Atk. and speed just made it the easiest pokemon game I've ever playted.

I think I really liked Krookodile; dude was super strong and surprisingly fast for a giant crocodile
Most of the Pokemon in the game are easy to play with in the story because you're many levels higher than your opponent. It has great special attack, and two good STAB's, but that's it, average defenses, no Levitate ability, it's speed is only base 80 and that's below many Pokemon, but that doesn't matter as much in the in-game because as I said, you're often many levels above the trainers. Gengar is a better Ghost Pokemon than Chandelure, and Darmanitan is a better fire Pokemon than Chandelure, just as some examples. I've used much easier Pokemon than Chandelure before. Krookodile is cool, I used one my White file along side Chandelure.

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Nah, I still prefer Gengar to Chandelure, Chandelure gets killed far too easily, no levitate, and Gengar has better type coverage with moves like Focus Blast.
So do I, Chandelure's just my favorite Gen 5 Pokemon, while Gengar's my favorite Ghost Pokemon period and it's one of my favorite Pokemon in the game.
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The concept of Pokemon based on ice cream is so ridiculous, that I actually like it.

Best of Gen V

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Haunter > Gengar. You know it. :ryder1

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The concept of Pokemon based on ice cream is so ridiculous, that I actually like it.

Best of Gen V
I agree on some of those (Chandelure, Galvantula, Braviary).

Samurott, Haxorus, Bouffalant, Excadrill are ok.

Conkeldurr has a pretty bad design imo (and a equally bad name) but it's a effective Pokemon.

and Simisage is awful.

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Chandelure is in no way unfair..

You mentioned its Speed which with a high Sp. Att would be great, but Chandy just doesn't have high speed. Base 80 Speed (Only manages to hit 145 with Maximum Possible Speed at Level 50..) which puts it in the same group as Dragonite, Mamoswine, Magikarp and Gastly.. There are plenty of faster Pokemon that are stronger or even better defensively and if Chandy is OP, Gengar is the most god-like Pokemon since Gen 1 Chansey. (Back when Sp.Def & Sp.Att were the same stat.)

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Galvantula is GOAT Pokemon to have come from Gen 5. The Vanilla Ice-Cream lot are the WOAT Pokemon in my Opinion..

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It seems like it is just getting to the point of hating for the sake of it when it comes to Gen 5. The games were average, the designs were a little lacking at times but Plasma's recovery in B/W 2 is so much better than the abomination that was Team Rocket's in Gen 2 and the Remakes. Gen 5 is nowhere near as bad as some people are claiming, but I'll admit, it was very average.


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Chandelure is in no way unfair..

You mentioned its Speed which with a high Sp. Att would be great, but Chandy just doesn't have high speed. Base 80 Speed (Only manages to hit 145 with Maximum Possible Speed at Level 50..) which puts it in the same group as Dragonite, Mamoswine, Magikarp and Gastly.. There are plenty of faster Pokemon that are stronger or even better defensively and if Chandy is OP, Gengar is the most god-like Pokemon since Gen 1 Chansey. (Back when Sp.Def & Sp.Att were the same stat.)
Lol Magikarp. But yeah, you're right. If Chandelure was so good it wouldn't be in the underused tier in competitive Pokemon.

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It seems like it is just getting to the point of hating for the sake of it when it comes to Gen 5. The games were average, the designs were a little lacking at times but Plasma's recovery in B/W 2 is so much better than the abomination that was Team Rocket's in Gen 2 and the Remakes. Gen 5 is nowhere near as bad as some people are claiming, but I'll admit, it was very average.
Well I've never played B/W 2, but explain to me why you think Team Rocket were an abomination in gen 2?
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I have fond memories of my Chandelure. but also sigilyph. he suprised me for only being a 1 evolution pokemon (I usually hate them because they're boring).


I really liked Rotom so far (elec/ghost). he's fast and pretty decent on all fronts. Plus, I can change him to a different type if I really want to.

and Roserade right now is legit beast.
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Lol Magikarp. But yeah, you're right. If Chandelure was so good it wouldn't be in the underused tier in competitive Pokemon.
Smogon do make a lot of poor choices in their tiers.. Like Raikou in UU for example.

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Compare them to Gen 1.

In Gen 1 they killed a Marowak, created one of the best Pokemon that have ever come out in Mewtwo, taken control over a Gym and were also planning to capture Mewtwo by stealing the Prototype of the Master Ball.

Gen 2. They've used a signal to attempt to evolve Magikarps, and then took over the Radio Tower. Impressive right? No. All they tried to do with said Radio Tower was contact the leader that failed them 3 years earlier.

Gen 1 Team Rocket - The best Villain Team in all the Pokemon Games.
Gen 2 Team Rocket - Quite possibly the worst team in all the Pokemon Games.


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I have fond memories of my Chandelure. but also sigilyph. he suprised me for only being a 1 evolution pokemon (I usually hate them because they're boring).
I liked Sigilyph.

Another one I ran in my team. Like Chandelure, it was another Pokemon I liked the moment I saw it, I remember mine was hard to catch, was a decent Pokemon to use.

Roserade looks cool, never raised one though. If I play a Gen 4 game I want a Roserade.

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Smogon do make a lot of poor choices in their tiers.. Like Raikou in UU for example.
Point. But you think that's bad? Mew's in UU in BW, the Pokemon with 100 in every stat and can learn every move, along with the likes of Zapdos, Snorlax. How does Mew drop from Uber in D/P to UU in B/W? Apparently B/W OU is so good that those Pokemon aren't up to standards, but yet Dugtrio's in OU? I get Arena Trap is a great ability on it, but come on...

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Compare them to Gen 1.

In Gen 1 they killed a Marowak, created one of the best Pokemon that have ever come out in Mewtwo, taken control over a Gym and were also planning to capture Mewtwo by stealing the Prototype of the Master Ball.

Gen 2. They've used a signal to attempt to evolve Magikarps, and then took over the Radio Tower. Impressive right? No. All they tried to do with said Radio Tower was contact the leader that failed them 3 years earlier.

Gen 1 Team Rocket - The best Villain Team in all the Pokemon Games.
Gen 2 Team Rocket - Quite possibly the worst team in all the Pokemon Games.


Again you have a point.

I just liked having Team Rocket in the game despite how much better they were in Gen 1. Things like having them in Gen 2 made the Gen 2 games real sequals to the Gen 1 games. I liked the continue story, and in their remakes I like how you find out that Giovanni was the father of your rival Silver.

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I only caught sigilyph because it looked funny. and I only caught budew (roserade's baby form) because I was playing platinum.

this dragon/ghost thing in Platinum, the legendary on the box; this thing sucks.
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