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Yo its me its me its DPP!

I would like to make an honest review of the pokemon games starting with Red/Blue/Green/Yellow

NO NOSTALGIA GOGGLES NO FAN BIASNESS lets just give all the games an impartial look and judge them on their own merits

remember:regardless of how you first dicovered Pocket Monsters the video games came first before everything else, kind of ironic considering the Yellow version is based more on the anime just to make the confusion complete

and i will try to keep it as spoiler free as possible

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up to this point in time JRPGs have been about leveling up a set team of Medievil heroes, THIS GAME ON THE OTHER HAND(along with Earthbound) broke that mold by taking place in a modern setting and having you play as a little kid, but unlike most rpgs this game allows you the player the chance to CHOOSE YOUR OWN TEAM OUT OF 152 different fighting partners and change it at any point during the game, Shining Force has done something like this first but that was still pretty linear* compared to this, so yeah for its time this was pretty ground breaking

The pokeball mechanic is frustrating at times but is rather tense and rewarding, but the Safarri Zone does make me wonder why we even need to battle wild pokemon though, kinda sets a bad example considering how we treat nature

Speaking of *linear thats what this game feels like until you reach Celadon city AND EVEN then you only have the Celadon Gym the Bike Road(provided you remebered to pick one up back in Cerulean) and Fushia City to go to unless you know what you're doing

I mean finding the SURF HM, getting into Saffron, how to get pass the Snorlax's and finding all the various Rocket hideouts are quite puzzling and crytic and really don't have that much to do with how strong your team is, but like most rpgs going into every building and talking to everyone can help you out, but most towns folk and trainers have nothing interesting to say.

One problem RPGs have in common is that the game becomes easy if you level grind enough. THE WORLDS EASIEST AND MOST LEGAL CHEAT. This game does have an idea to counter that by giving the gym badges you earn as level limits, grind your 'mon past a certain level and they will simply stop listening to you until you earn a certain badge UNFORTUNATELY like i said earlier it seems to only work on traded pokemon which practically makes the level block near pointless

another thing RPGs in general tend to give the player is SIDEQUESTS in this game the point of them is basically to fill your pokedex by finding the more elusive Pokemon like the 3 legendary birds and infamous fan favourite Mewtwo, (IF YOU'RE PLAYING POKEMON STADIUM I DON'T RECCOMEND ANY OF THEM)

speaking of Mewtwo there is some backstory hidden amongst the books found in the burned out Lab where some scientists got a hold of extinct pokemon Mew and made a clone but the game doesn't resally go into that in any dramatic sense would have been nice if they did though. Anybody see the movies?

JRPGs combat system has more less been about choosing simplistic basic options to use as attacks/spells or using staus effecting techniques/some of which being spells aswell, some enemies are more vulnerable to elemental style magic attacks. BUT this game on the other hand; TICK TACK TOE style elemental attacks is half the game. 15 different elements to be exact with lots of super uneffective/effective combintions with attacks, however not all spaces on the type table(found in the instruction manual) have them it would be interesting though if they were all filled in with something

So yeah the combat system is easy and enticing. The pokemon repel to avoid random battle is a very convinient touch too. The music is some of the best on the gameboy.

As far as level grinding goes this is one of the best reasons take the game boy with you out of the house. Got time to burn? Grind your 'mon until the wait is over.

Just a few more negatives:

Only 3 ghost pokemon and all have poison type as well making them extra vulnerable

Not being able to bypass Brocks gym is annoying.

Am I the only one in the world that thinks that TMs are a little excessive? A little ridulous when a normal cat pokemon can suddenly start shooting water and fire from its mouth, knowatimean?

Also when you finally start battling the Rockets most of them are pretty weak at this point and are just repetitive, the same goes for when you start batlling the trainers on the routes around Fushia. They don't help that much in the way of trying to get your pokemon up to 50 and 60 plus at this poin. So the more pokemon you have on your crack team the less you prepared you are for the final trainers. So yeah if you keep to just one or two 'mon then fill the rest up with HM users and useful HMs and TMs you don't nessisarily need like FLY, Teleport and Dig you should be fine.

ALSO how are you supposed to figure out once the other seven gyms have been cleared that the final gym is near the begining of the game?! I SWEAR there is almost no-one in the game world who tells you that you can now enter it, after Cinnebar Island chances are you've completly forgot about where to possibly find the last badge.

Just finding all the evolutionary methods to fill out your pokedex is a drawn out puzzle in itself.

ALSO the item management, you only carry 20 different 'tems at a time and in huge expansive levels you find yourslef needing to throw stuff away if you can't be bothered to sell them at the shops

SO ON THE WHOLE:While a fun and engaging game there are better options for getting your RPG fix. I only recommend these games to fans or those wanting to complete the Pokemon Stadium games more easily.(If you do be sure to unlock the Doduo and or Dudrio modes first to make the grind less time consuming. THIS IS JUST A HOBBY AFTER ALL AMIRITE?)

If you want to a good jumping on point to the Pokemon RPG series i recommend the sequals. Speaking of which The Gold/Silver/Crystal versions reviews are coming up next.

IF I GOT SOMETHING WRONG OR MISSED SOMETHING HERE PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POINT IT OUT, I TRY TO KEEP MY THOUGHTS AS OPINION FREE AS POSSIBLE

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B2/W2's Main Character's design isn't too bad from the Chest up.. He looks like a twig below that though. Brendan isn't too bad, same as Lucas.
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remember:regardless of how you first dicovered Pocket Monsters the video games came first before everything else, kind of ironic considering the Yellow version is based more on the anime just to make the confusion complete
Pokemon Yellow came out after the Anime began. (Almost a year after) It also came out just before the first movie was released in North America. A month after in Japan.


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The pokeball mechanic is frustrating at times but is rather tense and rewarding, but the Safarri Zone does make me wonder why we even need to battle wild pokemon though
I'm guessing that the Safari Pokemon is full of Pokemon that haven't had enough Human contact to have that fighting instinct when they see one.

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One problem RPGs have in common is that the game becomes easy if you level grind enough. THE WORLDS EASIEST AND MOST LEGAL CHEAT. This game does have an idea to counter that by giving the gym badges you earn as level limits, grind your 'mon past a certain level and they will simply stop listening to you until you earn a certain badge UNFORTUNATELY like i said earlier it seems to only work on traded pokemon which practically makes the level block near pointless
How often are you going to bring up that the game gets too easy if you grind.. Of course it does, as does nigh on every RPG! Don't grind up levels and then it is harder.. Easiest and most Legal Cheat? How so?? It's not in any way, shape or form a cheat.

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speaking of Mewtwo there is some backstory hidden amongst the books found in the burned out Lab where some scientists got a hold of extinct pokemon Mew and made a clone but the game doesn't resally go into that in any dramatic sense would have been nice if they did though. Anybody see the movies?
How could they make it more dramatic? Better yet.. Why would they make it more dramatic??


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Not being able to bypass Brocks gym is annoying.
Wha.. You've never been able to just skip the first Gym.. I don't see why Brock's should be any different..

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Am I the only one in the world that thinks that TMs are a little excessive? A little ridulous when a normal cat pokemon can suddenly start shooting water and fire from its mouth, knowatimean?
No, you are not the only one in the world to think that.. Of course someone else somewhere has thought the same thing you did.

Neither Meowth nor Persian actually learn any fire moves in Gen 1 and only learn 2 Water Type moves. (Water Gun & Bubblebeam.) In fact, the only Fire move either has ever learned is Sunny Day.

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SO ON THE WHOLE:While a fun and engaging game there are better options for getting your RPG fix. I only recommend these games to fans or those wanting to complete the Pokemon Stadium games more easily.(If you do be sure to unlock the Doduo and or Dudrio modes first to make the grind less time consuming. THIS IS JUST A HOBBY AFTER ALL AMIRITE?)
Wut. You'd only recommend these games to people wanting to complete Pokemon Stadium.. You have got to be kidding me! Gen 1 was/is/will always be the best Generation of Pokemon by a country mile! There was challenge, fun, sad moments, happy moments and so much more that the other generations haven't captured nearly as well! The Elite 4 was a nightmare, Gary/Blue was an absolute dick throughout the game and if you actually read into it well enough you know exactly why!


On a slightly related note, I could spend hours linking 'Pokemon Theories' that range from being so unbelievable it's funny to ones that are incredibly logical and/or have been confirmed..

Spoiler for Here's a Picture with a few theories on it:


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On a slightly related note, I could spend hours linking 'Pokemon Theories' that range from being so unbelievable it's funny to ones that are incredibly logical and/or have been confirmed..

Spoiler for Here's a Picture with a few theories on it:
Coolest thing I've ever seen man! I spent 20 minutes looking at all of that


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quick review of crystal/gold/silver

good:
better graphics
more lineant level balance
more item storage and labled for conviniance
cell phone/radio/clock/calender features are welcome additions
actually sequalised storyline carried over from the last game up until the end wink wink nudge nudge
Ferry and train transportation also a nice touch
The Rival being a full fledged villan as apposed to a distraction
Koga being in the elite 4
tense event scenes
progression not as cryptic as before

peeves:
music not as memorable as before
so is Lance from the last game really the best trainer in the land besides Blue and Red?
item holding system a little weird

bad:
virtually impossible to get all 250+ 'mon
Wrap attack no longer constricting
Constrict attack is still useless
friendship system a little too vague
having to make Ghost moves strong against phychic to clear up the confusion from the anime

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quick review of crystal/gold/silver

good:
better graphics
Agreed
more lineant level balance
Levels were terribly done in Gen 2
more item storage and labled for conviniance
cell phone/radio/clock/calender features are welcome additions
They were good additions that didn't do much unfortunately.
actually sequalised storyline carried over from the last game
Every single Pokemon game is linked in one way or another. Cynthia in B/W for example.
Ferry and train transportation also a nice touch
The Rival being a full fledged villan as apposed to a distraction
Silver was fairly meh. Can't say that he was the best Rival, but he was by no means the worst. (May or Cheren take that.)
Koga being in the elite 4
"NO NOSTALGIA GOGGLES NO FAN BIASNESS" Wouldn't this fall under the Bias part?
tense event scenes
What scenes?
progression not as cryptic as before

peeves:
music not as memorable as before
No music in any of the games since can compare to Gen 1 due to the fact that they stick in your mind. It's Nostalgia at its finest.
so is Lance from the last game really the best trainer in the land besides Blue and Red?
He was the Champion until Blue beat him which would have dropped him to second. Losing to Red placed him third. I'd say he's around 3rd/4th.
item holding system a little weird
How so? May be missing something here, but I believe that it's almost the exact same as it is now.

bad:
virtually impossible to get all 250+ 'mon
As with every game.
Wrap attack no longer constricting
Wrap was a bitch, so I can't give a fair call here.
Constrict attack is still useless
Splash.
friendship system a little too vague
How so?
having to make Ghost moves strong against phychic to clear up the confusion from the anime
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+1 for posting that theory pic Daiko. Some of those things I've heard about before like the Cubone/Kangaskhan theory, the Venonat/Butterfree idea, and The Lavender Town theory. Very interesting stuff.

Silver was my favorite rival, personally. A true heel of the Pokemon games.

Gary's right behind.

And I don't think the levels balance was bad for Gen 2, maybe they could of been a bit tougher, but remember they had to cover Johto and Kanto with 16 Gym Leaders.
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I have to agree on Silver as the best Rival. Though I made the choice as a young child to name him "???" because I felt that answering the policeman honestly when he asked me the kid's name was the right thing to do.

He also has the coolest battle theme of the rivals by some distance.


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