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Old 11-23-2012, 02:59 PM   #281 (permalink)
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Without a doubt Charles Lee is the #1 heel in all of the Asssassin's Creed games
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Without a doubt Charles Lee is the #1 heel in all of the Asssassin's Creed games
I think Al Mualim's build as a face made him much more effective once he turned.
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Old 11-23-2012, 03:51 PM   #283 (permalink)
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I think Al Mualim's build as a face made him much more effective once he turned.
Wanna talk about Haytham? He almost had more turns in 12 sequences than big show in his whole career.
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:30 PM   #284 (permalink)
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Just finished the game, the credits took almost 20 minutes lmao
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Without a doubt Charles Lee is the #1 heel in all of the Asssassin's Creed games
Definitely. Him and Haytham were probably the only interesting and charasmatic characters in the game. Connor is dull as dishwater.
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I think Al Mualim's build as a face made him much more effective once he turned.
Al Mualim's heel-turn was very good I agree, but it didn't come as much of a shocker to me than Haytham's.
After playing as Haytham for a while him exposing himself as a templar really blew my mind

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Hardly. Cesare Borgia makes Lee look ridiculously sane. Still, Lee really had the creepy vibe down to a T.
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I agree Cesare was more insane but Lee is just pure evil looking, especially after the Haytham swerve at end of Seq 3 and you begin as Connor.
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***Spoiler*** I like how Lee was manipulative too, Example is he made Connor's best friend think Connor had turned on the village which ended up with Connor killing him. As well as almost getting Washington's men killed when he ordered to walk into a Red Coat ambush

Borgia the only thing I hate about him and Al-Mualim is how they got magic powers from the apple and the staff at the end, seemed very unrealistic to a point. Would love to have sparred with Lee at the end but with not magic powers and no combat skill it was just a scene instead of an actual fight.
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I agree Cesare was more insane but Lee is just pure evil looking, especially after the Haytham swerve at end of Seq 3 and you begin as Connor.
So is Cesare, though, really, he looks insanely creepy. I loved how evil Lee looked and was, but at the end of the day, I think he falls short of the best bad guy for this franchise. For starters (and I realize this is before Cesare was introduced but he obviously had a part in it), the Borgias wouldn't have let Connor live in the forest, they would've killed him without hesitation just like they did with Petruccio, Ezio's adolescent brother who Rodrigo admits "didn't need to die, I just killed him (them) to prove a point"

Not to mention, Lee just gives up at the end and submits to his own death, whereas Cesare is in total God complex mode, trying to kill you in the middle of a burning city with him basically saying that he's immortal and you can't kill him. Plus, you don't fuck your sister or kill your dad (regardless of his dad being an insane twat too), extra heel points for that.
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