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Old 08-18-2012, 10:22 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's better than GTA, but Sleeping Dogs is a surprisingly good open world game. The hand-to-hand combat blows every other sandbox game out of the water (unless you included Arkham City; then it's a step back), the driving is somewhat fun, and the shooting is solid. Of the core mechanics, everything is up to standard.

The addition of the upgrade tree provides a small amount of freedom, the atmosphere is decent, the city is a good size and there's a considerable amount of collectibles (clothes, vehicles, upgrades). There's a variety of side-missions, some interesting characters and a well told story.

It's not the best open world game, but it's much better than I was expecting. Equal to Saints Row 3, at least.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:45 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Sorry, but no. Saints Row has been kind for a while now.
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This game is definitely better than True Crime.

I guess I should clarify, but I do stand by my statement, agree or disagree. Now, GTA IV is 4 years older (as Stinger Fan correctly stated), so you can tell this game was made by people with a better understanding of how to get better graphics out of a game due to having more working experience with the current generation of consoles. I think it is fair to compare to GTA, because well, GTA is the benchmark. It is a popular game that everyone has played, so to give a clear picture, why not compare it to the king of the hill? It's not the best controls ever or anything in a GTA style game (I was rather fond of the fighting mechanics in Saints Row 1 to be honest) but it kills GTA on all levels. Everything does, that has been a weakness of GTA since....since it went 3D.

And I stand by the story being very good. GTA had memorable characters, sure. This game has me more intrigued with the dialogue than GTA IV ever did (and I reference to IV because that is my personal favorite of the series, not because it's the newest). I go to do a favor for some guy and he's like "Yo help me out? So he punches a cop in front of 20 people and then says "Let's get the fuck outta here." You go to find out he did that because the cop was sleeping with his girlfriend. Actually, it wasn't his girlfriend, but he likes the girl. And he asks you to drive because he has no license. But he was cool punching a cop. I laughed.

The traffic is light compared to GTA for sure, and certainly light for what I would expect in a "city" of 7 million people. Because you are a cop, the game doesn't want you to kill every single pedestrian as result. I'm fine with that. The music I haven't experienced fully, but I have heard Killswitch Engage, Trivium and Opeth so far, good stuff for heavy metal fans. The Who, Queen, and Deep Purple are a huge plus. Was thrilled they chose Fireball and not SOTW or Highway Star, song rules for cruising around to. Deep Purple kicks ass. Saw Duran Duran too I believe. Hong Kong Rap is lol.

While GTA V may indeed come along and top this game and some may feel GTA IV is better, I would certainly disagree if anyone thought that this game wasn't worthy of being on par with that esteem franchise based on how much I've played so far. It plays more like GTA and less like Saint's Row - meaning it's more of a serious game, not a silly one.

If you are wondering if the game is good or not, then it just is - it's not really debatable. I can't fathon any hardcore GTA fan playing this game and going "Yeah this sucks" unless you go into playing it with a negative mindset looking to be critical of everything.

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It is True Crime though.
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I hope this game sells very well, otherwise all the quality will go to waste.

Either way, I hope Rockstar see this as a challenge, and, in turn, up their game.
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Just wait for GTA V. No one will be talking about Sleeping Dogs anymore.
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Once GTA V is out no one will even remember Sleeping Dogs. Just give Rockstar time to blow your minds with this one.
If it had Rockstar North on the front cover it would be a different story and how would you even know if it will be better i bet neither of you have played sleeping dogs and there's just been one trailer released for GTA V.

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This.The two games have different focuses
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That's the problem with Sandboxs games, EVERYONE tries to compare them to the pinnacle - GTA - even though they have nothing in common apart from being an open world game. I remember when people were comparing Just Cause 2 and GTA, pointless.
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I picked this up just expecting an 8ish game, but I really have to agree. While GTA 3-San Andreas are better, I'm enjoying this a ton more than GTA4. The melee combat is great and the driving is probably the best out there for an open world game. It's very atmospheric, and there are a ton of things to do. I like when you do a nasty environmental kill everyone stops for a second or two and is like "Holy shit!", or there's an adverstisement on the radio for somewhere you can go to. If you don't rush through the main story and do the side stuff it'll last you a while. The customization (cars,clothes) and shooting could be improved but they're not bad by any means. Oh and the radio stations are awesome.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Game felt really PS2-y.

Just didn't like it.

GTA 4 isn't even like this game.

I also hates SR3.
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I hope this game sells very well, otherwise all the quality will go to waste.

Either way, I hope Rockstar see this as a challenge, and, in turn, up their game.
They've always upped their game whether there was a challenge or not. Whenever a game takes over and runs shit for awhile theres always these hipster gamers that start hating it cause it's so "mainstream". I have no doubt that V will once again set a new standard. These guys think they can do it, Saints row thought they could do it, The Driver series stopped even trying.

With all that said, I wish people could enjoy the games for what they are instead of always trying to compare and outdo each other. If you like Saints Row, like Saints Row, who gives a shit about the others?
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