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treyarch > IW

GetStokedOnIt

I'm pretty burnt out on CoD at this point. Haven't even played Mw3, I really enjoyed Black Ops though. Don't think I'll be picking this up, although props to Treyarch for doing something different and setting it in the future. Maybe I'll consider it if it gets rave reviews.

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Ruiner87

Let's take a look at what Skyrim does well:

Graphics
World Design
Exploration

Let's take a look at what it doesn't do well:

Combat (in a game focused on combat, no less)
Dialogue (it's absolute horseshit)
Questlines (remember when becoming the head of a faction took more than six quests? Not to mention how garbage the MQ was)
RPG elements (attributes were taken out why, exactly? Never mind the fact that there are once again less skills than in previous games)
Difficulty (artificial as hell)

Skyrim is an above average game, at best, but it mainly rides on the coattails of previous games in the series. It can barely even compare to Oblivion as an RPG, let alone Morrowind or Daggerfall. Maybe I'm just not the target audience of Bethesda anymore. A game that I've been playing a lot lately is Dark Souls, and it absolutely blows Skyrim out of the water. The lore and storyline are more interesting, partially because it's not spoon-fed to you, and the combat is miles ahead of Skyrim. Enemies actually feel threatening, and the difficulty goes beyond something having a lot of health, and you needing to chug health potions while you attack it. Exploring the world is also thoroughly more entertaining, with the vertical element adding a real sense of danger. The game has an oppressive atmosphere in the best possible way, kind of like Silent Hill 2, but with less fog. The quests are far more interesting, taking you to a variety of locales, all extremely different from one another, and the dialogue, although used sparingly, is quite good.

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Makaveli

Touche. It's my first Elder Scrolls game so I'm happy with it. I never bothered to get too much into the story so dialogue doesn't really matter to me. Combat is, for me, fun. I see the issues though and as far as difficulty it's fairly easy. I ran into trouble when I first picked it up, but at this stage it's FTMP a cakewalk, but I'm fine with that. I still enjoy it.

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Ruiner87

It's a good introduction to the series, I'll give it that. The difficulty argument is just me complaining about the 'Master' difficulty (and certain fights on Adept and Expert), where enemies just gain a bunch of health, and do more damage. Despite my arguments against it, I still enjoy the game, I just wish that I could enjoy it more.

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soul_seek

Definitely. They generally have more innovation in their games. Look at Zombies and Combat Training. Infinity Ward made one good CoD and that was CoD4.

Solid_Rob

BF3 had a COD-esque campaign, so COD developers said "fuck it, let's repackage one of their games!"

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Tarfu

I only give a shit about this game because TRENT REZNOR is scoring it.

http://www.gamespot.com/call-of-duty...eznor-6387645/

Also if multiplayer is what it was on Black Ops (completely superior to any MW) but even better, then I have anther reason to care.

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Aid180

The game looks to be coming together nicely. While the gameplay still is tired and hasn't changed much at all in the past 6 years, it's still not bad. They look like they are really trying with the story this time around. I look forward to eventually playing this game, but it is probably not a day one purchase for me due to the amount of games coming out in October and November.

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Motorik

Gotta' disagree on the Treyarch > Infinity Ward comment. How many good CoD games has Infinity Ward made? 1 and 2 were both outstanding, 4 was outstanding and personally my favourite CoD game, Modern Warfare 2 was better than a lot of people give it credit for. Compare that to the amount of good CoD games Treyarch has made; Black Ops is pretty good and the last CoD game I bought, however they didn't really innovate much at all other than the zombies gimmick which didn't really tie in the Black Ops at all but it was so succesful in World At War they felt they had to include it. The multiplayer engine and mechanics that everyone apparently loves also originally came from Modern Warfare 1 and 2, both developed by Infinity Ward.

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