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Old 10-19-2010, 05:04 PM   #1601 (permalink)
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Street Fighter IV returned to the franchise's roots, SF2. So yeah, it's kind of step down compared to the overly technical SF3 but it's still 100% Japanese Vs-Fighting. The 3D makeover was necessary to attract a new and younger audience who thinks 2D graphics don't look good.

For RE5, I don't see how a game with no cover system has anything to do with Gears of War. I'd even say that RE5's archaic gameplay is what makes it very Japanese.

Anyway, the fact is when Japanese studios release a very Japanese looking game, people don't buy it (see Bayonetta). So I'm not surprised they try something a little different now.
SF 3 isnt any more technical than SF 4. SF 4 certainly is not a return to the franchise's roots. It was made 3d to appeal to Americans. 2d fighting games still do extremely well in Japan (and the rest of Asia and Latin America for that matter). Not putting out an arcade version of Super SF IV was also a way to distance themselves from the Japanese market (although now they're doing one due to popular demand).

RE 5 did have a cover system. The last quarter of the game was the ZOMBIES WITH GUNS part which was what I was mainly referring to.
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Old 10-19-2010, 05:44 PM   #1602 (permalink)
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anyone else anticipating epic mickey?

i seriously cannot wait
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^^Yes sir,i think i might pre-order it.
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im probably going to pirate it, then buy it on release.. because wii games are generally on the net before they're sold.
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If you pre-order from Buy.com you get a $10 discount,so if i get some extra cash that's where i'm most likely buying it from. Can't wait for this game it's gonna be awesome.
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SF 3 isnt any more technical than SF 4. SF 4 certainly is not a return to the franchise's roots. It was made 3d to appeal to Americans. 2d fighting games still do extremely well in Japan (and the rest of Asia and Latin America for that matter). Not putting out an arcade version of Super SF IV was also a way to distance themselves from the Japanese market (although now they're doing one due to popular demand).

RE 5 did have a cover system. The last quarter of the game was the ZOMBIES WITH GUNS part which was what I was mainly referring to.
You're talking about graphics, I'm talking about gameplay.
SFIV is a return to the SF2 fundamentals, despite its 3D graphics. It's obvious Capcom tried to obtain worldwide success with simpler mechanics (no SF3 parry system) and a redesigned presentation; they said it themselves. I don't see how you could blame them for that.
And last time I checked, Japanese players were still better than Americans on Super SFIV so I guess they like the game too.

Anyway, the truth is Japan is not big enough nowadays. It costs so much money to develop a game for the newer consoles (PS3, 360) that Japanese studios have to aim the american and european markets.
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It didn't return to SF 2 fundamentals though. Most of what they said was PR bullshit. It wasn't any more fundamental Street Fighter than Alpha or SF 3. I could get into specifics but I know way too much about Street Fighter and it would probably just be confusing. Super SF4 is not very popular in Japan. They don't like playing online in Japan and they can't go to each others houses to play games because they're way too small so they go to arcades and Super SF 4 isn't an arcade game. When regular SF 4 was at it's peak it would still finish behind Third Strike on Japan's arcade ranking charts consistently.
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Uh ok, we could go on and on like this for a while, so basically, what's your problem with SFIV? I mean, aside its graphics. You failed to point out anything else so far.
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I don't have a problem with it. I've put many hours into the game. Sure, the online sucks and it's not as good as Street Fighter 2, but I never said I had a problem with it. I was simply disagreeing with your notion that it took the series back to it's roots.

I don't have a problem with Japanese games becoming Americanized either (to a degree), I was just stating that Capcom definitely did it with RE 5 and SF 4.
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My problem with SF 4 was that fucking annoying Luchadore, and Seth being a cheap peice of shit.
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