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Super Smash Bros vs Traditional Fighters

It seems to me like a decent amount of fans of traditional fighting games don't view SSB games as fighting games. More as a party game instead. I actually don't really understand that view.

It is unconventional that the goal is to knock your opponent off the screen, as opposed to killing off a life bar. However, you're still fighting your opponent to defeat them. Imo, it's actually more fun to watch at a professional level than most other fighting games.

It's actually more popular than a lot of people think, and actually gaining popularity. These are big matches from the most recent event, which was actually pretty huge.

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Folks who knock Super Smash Bros. probably have a case of traditionalism. Like Mario Kart's introduction of usable items adding a whole new spin to racing games by granting you the opporunity to change the flow of the standings during the race, Smash does the same thing, albeit for a fighting game. And like MK, this gives Smash an interesting quirk that makes it standout and accessible to anyone regardless of their skill level.

I've played the series religiously since it debuted, but I only started to learn how to learn and use actual techniques when SSB3D / SSBU came out. As a result, I have fun playing it in its standard format (items, stages with hazards and aiming for KOs / stocks / coins / etc.) or in its universally accepted competitive format (no items, omega stages and stocks only).
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Re: Super Smash Bros vs Traditional Fighters

As far as professional gaming I don't know. But Mario Kart and Smash Brothers have historically been party games for friends hanging out, just like Gauntlet Legends, etc. Basically anything 4 player back in the day.


Considering regular fighters been around so long, I can see that point of few, but I actually loved Smash Brothers and found people to be way more competitive about it.

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It's a fighting game. Whether you think it's shit or not, it's a fighting game. I've never understood the mindset that it isn't a fighting game; I find it bullshit and in some cases frankly elitist.
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As far as professional gaming I don't know. But Mario Kart and Smash Brothers have historically been party games for friends hanging out, just like Gauntlet Legends, etc. Basically anything 4 player back in the day.


Considering regular fighters been around so long, I can see that point of few, but I actually loved Smash Brothers and found people to be way more competitive about it.
Melee was the 2nd most watched game at Evo this past year, and almost 120,000 people were watching that first video I posted live on Twitch(which was around 1-2am EST) last Sunday.

Even though they are both considered party games by some people, I don't think Mario Kart is a competitive gaming option.

It wasn't until recently that Nintendo finally started backing the Smash Bros games in the competitive sense. If you've never watched professionals play the game, it's on a whole other level. Especially Melee, which came out like 15 years ago.
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Smash Bros is actually very popular with a big competitive following - and Melee is one of the greatest games ever made IMO. The creators of Smash Bros only ever intended it to be a party game, but when people discovered how competitive it could be played with the discovery of all the advance techniques and the potential of how far the characters could go, it turned into something huge.

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Re: Super Smash Bros vs Traditional Fighters

Since we're on the topic of Smash, do you have any mains, OP? And which installments of the series do you typically play?

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Yeah, melee is huge in the competitive scene. I don't know where you got this from.
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Since we're on the topic of Smash, do you have any mains, OP? And which installments of the series do you typically play?
I used to have Melee, but my sister lost the game a few years ago. I have Smash 4 now for about a month, & I have yet to decide on a particular main. I figured I might just wait since the last 2 characters come out next month.

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Yeah, melee is huge in the competitive scene. I don't know where you got this from.
I'm guessing you didn't pay attention to my whole post. I said right there that the first video I posted, which took place a week ago, was being watched by almost 120,000 people live. What I'm saying is that a lot of fans of traditional fighting games feel like it doesn't belong at those big multigame events.

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