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Old 10-23-2013, 06:55 PM   #71 (permalink)
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He's 100% right. All of these people wanting TNA to go out of business aren't true wrestling fans in my book. I hate the WWE and don't watch it anymore but I would never want them to go out of business. It's always good to have another option and maybe one day the WWE will improve. I doubt it though.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:49 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Magnus, mate, you looked like a man on the up and up at BFG but I just can't sugar coat this one bit

1. yes some of us want LESS s**ty wrestling in existence

2. I do want wrestlers I admire to work elsewhere, TNA doesn't deserve them and they should probably remedy that

3. you call it a rumour coming into fruition as if it were the fault of whoever started it I call it an unwisely self-fulfilled prophecy

4. there's downloading, live streaming ppvs then there's video sharing websites like Youtube and Dailymotion

5. there isn't a difference between armchair writers and actual writers since technically the pro writers sit down in chairs themselves while working too

6. you can tell the critics to f off like Dix' Cart' and Bitchoff told you to but facts are facts bro, try proving them wrong instead of ducking them

7. some of us are dedicated because we know how magical wrestling can be and chances are will still be around rooting for the wrestlers to get their due while the Cena kids are off to highschool

but throwing money away is idiotic, simple as

8. if people belive anything without looking into it first then you wouldn't want to be associated with them

90% or more of this post is pathetic and I'll tell you why if you care to know.
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Old 10-24-2013, 04:20 AM   #73 (permalink)
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90% or more of this post is pathetic and I'll tell you why if you care to know.
im really getting sick of these 90/10 arguments, especially with the lack of any solid evidence

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He's got a point though.

"I love wrestling... but I want a company to die."

It doesn't make any sense. You don't have to like every company, but wishing it to fail and go out of business is the most anti-wrestling thing you could ever do. Surely you'd want the industry to thrive and for there to be as much wrestling available as possible?
thrive? you think quantity equals quality?

have you been to a rinky dink indy promotion yourself? talk about vanity
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It was just my way of saying a lot of this post is stupid. If you wanted evidence, then sure...I did say, ask. I didn't wanna waste my time for nothing.

1. What difference does it make if TNA does or doesn't exist if you don't like the company? It changes nothing, but the state of wrestling and makes it worse, regardless of if you like them or not. That goes for any company going out.

2. Your opinion, but fair enough.

3. Erm...okay.

4. I'm sure he knows and it doesn't change his point. Regardless, none of those methods benefit TNA at all other than social awareness, which even then is a reach.

5. This is what made me post my initial statement. He's not stupid. Stop taking things so literally. An armchair booker is someone who hasn't spent a day in the job who believes they can do better than the guys that actually have the job. Whether or not that is the case is irrelevant. Armchair bookers are pretty much the IWC. Guys who think they know better. Am I one of those guys? At times, yeah. Whether or not an actual booker sits in a chair to book is not the point he was making. Like I said, let's not play stupid..

6. Because trashing any company you work for has always been a good idea.

7. Other than the "Cena kids" mention, fair enough. Decent point.

8. And that's why the IWC is full of dicks.
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Part of having a job in an industry that depends on pleasing a diverse audience - one that largely lacks whatever specialized training you have Ė is learning to put aside what you (and your colleges) may prefer in order to give the masses what they like. I hate having my own work criticized, and it took time for me to understand that sure, I might think my well-crafted design that has just the right balance and is oh-so-artistic is grand, and my fellow designers might well agree, but if it isnít what the client or the clientís audience wants, well, it doesnít matter that I know how itís done and they donít. The right option is whatever makes them come back for more.

Wrestlers and wrestling companies also have to come to grips with putting the audience first Ė experts can bitch about that on the side but to stay financially afloat you have to accept that youíre in the business of providing what makes the fans happy. And, oddly enough, what makes the fans happy is often the better idea anyway.

That said, I can see that a lot of people in this section feel any negative opinion has no place here, especially when it comes from someone who isnít comfortable identifying as completely unknowledgeable and just happy to shown anything wrestling, and not WWE, on television (I don't view the bulk of my wrestling via tv anyway, so that hardly matters to me). I have no desire to see TNA Ė or any other company, WWE included (who I like just fine, but also knock when it sucks) Ė go out of business. Iím all for diversity in the industry. If I didn't want them to succeed, I wouldn't bother watching at all, let alone be let down when the product is weak. Iíve also paid for TNA ppvs Ė I didnít pay for BFG this year, but I did in 2012. Maybe if 2013 had been more 2012-like... . Sorry, but they have to convince me to give them my money; there's no obligation for me to throw it at them because I'm a 'fan'.
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It was just my way of saying a lot of this post is stupid. If you wanted evidence, then sure...I did say, ask. I didn't wanna waste my time for nothing.

1. What difference does it make if TNA does or doesn't exist if you don't like the company? It changes nothing, but the state of wrestling and makes it worse, regardless of if you like them or not. That goes for any company going out.

2. Your opinion, but fair enough.

3. Erm...okay.

4. I'm sure he knows and it doesn't change his point. Regardless, none of those methods benefit TNA at all other than social awareness, which even then is a reach.

5. This is what made me post my initial statement. He's not stupid. Stop taking things so literally. An armchair booker is someone who hasn't spent a day in the job who believes they can do better than the guys that actually have the job. Whether or not that is the case is irrelevant. Armchair bookers are pretty much the IWC. Guys who think they know better. Am I one of those guys? At times, yeah. Whether or not an actual booker sits in a chair to book is not the point he was making. Like I said, let's not play stupid..

6. Because trashing any company you work for has always been a good idea.

7. Other than the "Cena kids" mention, fair enough. Decent point.

8. And that's why the IWC is full of dicks.

1. it would be something different, a lot of us have grown so numb to how much tna flounders and flops its time for us all to move on

2. opinions? how about facts!

5. lets also not use baby language to hide our methods of conclusion expecting ill-conceived quips to be used as a blanket be all end all excuse like a well written script for the anti-thought choir

or pretend that there is a thousand different intricacies where someone cuts a promo in the ring that drags on for ten minutes and can be summed up as "I don't like this guy" rather than keep it in the interview area saving up time to build up Manic or Ethan or one of the bro mans with a squash match or something of that nature

6. like scolding a child, has to be done

8a. just don't forget you're in the IWC too
b. I was talking about everyone not in the IWC that Magnus referred to

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Despite the overwhelming negativity of the forum, I do think that most bitching comes from frustration. Sure, there are a few people who are, "Yah, TNA sucks! Bush League!" But I think the majority just post out of annoyance and frustration.

How can a company that has 1) A major TV deal, 2) Better financial support than most promotions can dream of and 3) A fantastic roster (Aries, Joe, Roode, BI, AJ, Angle Hardy etc), end up making so many mistakes and ****ing up all the time?

I think TNA is unique in that respect. TNA is the only promotion I watch as I don't like the WWE (so I don't watch it, don't post on their forums or even give them much thought) and I don't really have easy access to ROH, PWG etc. As such, I don't visit their respective forums. But TNA.... They could be so much more, but they are just hindered by poor Creative and poor management and so many things that are so easy to put right.

I think that's why they get so much criticism. They're like the gifted child who doesn't apply themself - you come down on them harder than you do the stupid kid, because you know they are capable of so much more.
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He's 100% right. All of these people wanting TNA to go out of business aren't true wrestling fans in my book. I hate the WWE and don't watch it anymore but I would never want them to go out of business. It's always good to have another option and maybe one day the WWE will improve. I doubt it though.
wwe isn't an option, its the clog keeping this sport from realising its potential

they are forever slave to Wallstreet and will happily sacrifice the enjoyment of anyone with a self conscious functioning brain to not be in the poor house while the higher ups will always be fine

if wwe were gone it will allow the whole business to start off fresh like how Athens threw out their king and invented democracy

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