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Old 10-16-2013, 12:27 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I wouldn't have Hogan wrestle in 2013, or emphasize power struggles in a company that only has a two hour show.

The idea of Hogan wrestling, he can't take bumps, is a horrible idea.

I wouldn't give Angle the top spot given his problems with alcohol and barely finished rehab.
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Kudos to you for posting something. Doesn't look that bad actually.

I would say too many guys coming back that TNA may not be able to afford but that's a nice "dream card" I guess.

I think if you give TNA the 100-200k or so that you'd need for all this to go down (Talent wise) then they could probably do just as good or better though.
The thing is, the vast majority of the guys are already there, but I'd be beginning to phase many of them out by this point. So, let's look at who I added:

Matt Hardy: $2,500 per appearance, say 20 appearances between now and then, so an extra $50k
Pope: $1,500 per appearance. So $30k.
Mike Bennett & Maria: £2,500 per appearance. $50k.
Vordell Walker: $500 per appearance. $10k.
JoMo: $2k p/a. $40k.
Alex Shelley: $1,500 p/a. $30k.

So that's $210k TOTAL extra for the build, plus, say, another $50k for the undercard guys I'd be building towards the card next year. However, bear in mind that I'd let the following go in short order:
  • Wes Brisco
  • Garrett Bischoff
  • Jay Bradley
  • Christy Hemme
  • Jesse Godderz
  • Knux
  • Manik
  • Rampage
  • Sam Shaw
  • Hernandez
  • Gunner
  • King Mo
  • Eric Young

I bet cutting those thirteen guys I don't need or want would save me more than the $260k I'd spend replacing them.

Add to that the fact that by January 2015, I'd also have phased out the following other guys:
  • Sting
  • Abyss
  • Hogan
  • Brooke
  • ODB
  • Samoa Joe (probably)

That's another $2m a year, give or take. At which point I've had fourteen months to establish and build their replacements. And they're all replaceable. Hell, I'd even be starting to scale back AJ's role by then, and I'm not certain how long I'd be looking to keep Matt Hardy or Chris Sabin around. Bully probably wouldn't be far from retirement, either.

The best part is that I could replace that $2m worth of talent with 12 guys earning $600k combined from the indies. Maybe I'd splash out if certain WWE guys of value were released - or if the opportunity to bring in Batista or Jericho arose - but I'm talking carefully selected WWE guys, not anyone they happen to release like in the past. Current main eventers aside... R-Truth would have value to me, as would the Usos, Tyson Kidd, JTG, David Otunga, Curt Hawkins, Zack Ryder, Drew McIntyre, Justin Gabriel, Tensai, Wade Barrett, Natalya and Alex Riley. And they could all potentially be released in this timeframe. But I'd only want them if I had something for them creatively.

In-ring talent aside, I'd probably look to make changes to the way things were presented on-screen, too. I'd probably put Mike Tenay out to pasture and replace him with Jeremy Borash. I'd either bring back Todd Keneley or bring in Joe Dombrowski as my 'B' show play-by-play guy, all assuming Jim Ross didn't suddenly have a change of heart.

On colour, I'm a huge Taz mark, so I'd find it tough to have to replace him, but if it were best for business, I would. And I'd probably look to either Matt Striker or Shane Douglas to fill that gap.

I'd also upgrade the ring announcer. With no Christy left, I'd be looking to try and bring in someone more old-fashioned. I was always a big fan of Bob Artese, but I could happily use David Penzer.

Next, you need a backstage interviewer, and with Borash on the desk that's a role I could fill with either Striker or, more likely, some random ex-news reporter who loved wrestling.

So, in summary, by Slammiversary 2015, I'd have overhauled the product entirely and slashed the wage budget. All I'd have left to do is persuade Dixie to spend some money advertising the company and I'd be ready to show the world what a real number two looks like.

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I wouldn't have Hogan wrestle in 2013, or emphasize power struggles in a company that only has a two hour show.

The idea of Hogan wrestling, he can't take bumps, is a horrible idea.

I wouldn't give Angle the top spot given his problems with alcohol and barely finished rehab.
First of all, you have to book from where you pick things up or you exacerbate the problem. If I was to take the book right now then I'd have a power struggle storyline to tie up. And Hogan wouldn't need to wrestle with Jarrett. That's why I put them together. They could competently entertain the fans who don't give a fuck about workrate for ten minutes, Hogan can probably manage enough bumps to take a guitar shot and/or The Stroke and lay down for three seconds. All the rest is filler and dressing, I've tied off the loose end, and I've brought in buys for the biggest show of the year by giving people Hogan in an important match.

Also, Angle wouldn't have 'barely finished rehab' by the time June comes around. He'd be nearly a year sober, assuming no lapses. And giving him the top spot on a single show - especially given that if he's active, he's a main event guy - doesn't mean I'm building the company around him. It means that I'm putting on the highest-drawing World Title match of decent quality that it's possible to build for that show in the timeframe I have. And just because he's in the match, doesn't mean I have to make him the champ at the end of it.

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Add to that the fact that by January 2015, I'd also have phased out the following other guys:
  • Sting
  • Abyss
  • Hogan
  • Brooke
  • ODB
  • Samoa Joe (probably)

That's another $2m a year, give or take. At which point I've had fourteen months to establish and build their replacements. And they're all replaceable. Hell, I'd even be starting to scale back AJ's role by then, and I'm not certain how long I'd be looking to keep Matt Hardy or Chris Sabin around. Bully probably wouldn't be far from retirement, either.
Why not have Abyss/Park be an on screen personality?
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Why not have Abyss/Park be an on screen personality?
He's on around $400k a year, he's not the most charismatic nor the best looking guy, he's getting older and he's pretty shit in the ring. I can hire any random actor from any waffle house in Los Angeles to be an on-screen personality, and I wouldn't have to pay them even a quarter of what Abyss costs.
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you would fire samoa joe and keep rob terry?
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lol @ Abyss making 400k a year. stop pretending you know anything please.
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The thing is, the vast majority of the guys are already there, but I'd be beginning to phase many of them out by this point. So, let's look at who I added:

Matt Hardy: $2,500 per appearance, say 20 appearances between now and then, so an extra $50k
Pope: $1,500 per appearance. So $30k.
Mike Bennett & Maria: £2,500 per appearance. $50k.
Vordell Walker: $500 per appearance. $10k.
JoMo: $2k p/a. $40k.
Alex Shelley: $1,500 p/a. $30k.

So that's $210k TOTAL extra for the build, plus, say, another $50k for the undercard guys I'd be building towards the card next year. However, bear in mind that I'd let the following go in short order:
  • Wes Brisco
  • Garrett Bischoff
  • Jay Bradley
  • Christy Hemme
  • Jesse Godderz
  • Knux
  • Manik
  • Rampage
  • Sam Shaw
  • Hernandez
  • Gunner
  • King Mo
  • Eric Young

I bet cutting those thirteen guys I don't need or want would save me more than the $260k I'd spend replacing them.

Add to that the fact that by January 2015, I'd also have phased out the following other guys:
  • Sting
  • Abyss
  • Hogan
  • Brooke
  • ODB
  • Samoa Joe (probably)

That's another $2m a year, give or take. At which point I've had fourteen months to establish and build their replacements. And they're all replaceable. Hell, I'd even be starting to scale back AJ's role by then, and I'm not certain how long I'd be looking to keep Matt Hardy or Chris Sabin around. Bully probably wouldn't be far from retirement, either.

The best part is that I could replace that $2m worth of talent with 12 guys earning $600k combined from the indies. Maybe I'd splash out if certain WWE guys of value were released - or if the opportunity to bring in Batista or Jericho arose - but I'm talking carefully selected WWE guys, not anyone they happen to release like in the past. Current main eventers aside... R-Truth would have value to me, as would the Usos, Tyson Kidd, JTG, David Otunga, Curt Hawkins, Zack Ryder, Drew McIntyre, Justin Gabriel, Tensai, Wade Barrett, Natalya and Alex Riley. And they could all potentially be released in this timeframe. But I'd only want them if I had something for them creatively.

In-ring talent aside, I'd probably look to make changes to the way things were presented on-screen, too. I'd probably put Mike Tenay out to pasture and replace him with Jeremy Borash. I'd either bring back Todd Keneley or bring in Joe Dombrowski as my 'B' show play-by-play guy, all assuming Jim Ross didn't suddenly have a change of heart.

On colour, I'm a huge Taz mark, so I'd find it tough to have to replace him, but if it were best for business, I would. And I'd probably look to either Matt Striker or Shane Douglas to fill that gap.

I'd also upgrade the ring announcer. With no Christy left, I'd be looking to try and bring in someone more old-fashioned. I was always a big fan of Bob Artese, but I could happily use David Penzer.

Next, you need a backstage interviewer, and with Borash on the desk that's a role I could fill with either Striker or, more likely, some random ex-news reporter who loved wrestling.

So, in summary, by Slammiversary 2015, I'd have overhauled the product entirely and slashed the wage budget. All I'd have left to do is persuade Dixie to spend some money advertising the company and I'd be ready to show the world what a real number two looks like.
The main issue with all of that is you can't get rid of Hulk Hogan, Sting etc. Those are the only guys TNA have and TNA can't build more stars due to their size. The company even if booked well isn't going to be hitting 2.0's by 2015 at best you're looking at Smackdown numbers and even that is a bit hopeful.

You could get rid of Hulk and Sting but who is going to replace them? Your only real options are big name WWE cast aways and the only ones likely to leave WWE in the next 2 years are Orton (If he fails another drug test) and Rey Mysterio (Who is so injured he probably will get fired soon enough)

Apart from that your options are really Batista (Who is a movie star now) or Goldberg (Who wants to be overpaid, and rightly so)

As for the numbers, Hulk is apparently working for about 400k a year now in his new deal that he has yet to sign. Sting has always been around the 250-300k mark and Joe, Abyss etc probably wouldn't be making that much. I think at best you'd hit the million dollar mark and a guy like Batista or Goldberg would probably want around double that.
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