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Old 10-16-2013, 05:35 PM   #251 (permalink)
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Booed out the building at Bfg 2011?

Tbh Roode has gone on to become one of the best heels in the world and TNA history.



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They could have gone and done it with Roode beating Angle and then facing Storm and bashing him in the head with The Beer Bootle weeks later. Nothing would've changed or gone differently had they had Roode win at BFG instead of Hogan meddling as usual and Roode nearly quit after that BS.
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All about the money. Hulk isn't a mark he's a business man. I doubt he cares if he ever returns to WWE again for any other reason then money.


That's exactly right, it is all about the money, I was just pointing out what I would like Hogan to do. If I were him I would also go where the $$$ is at.



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He did use his creative control card, HE WALKED OUT OF THE PPV WITH THE BELT!!!!

Are you really this dense?
if he used his creative control so that the match ended with him winning, then that was the scheduled result that was supposed to happen. Hogan had the final say.
it's the same as being in a meeting with the people in creative pitching ideas. one can pitch this guy wins and one can pitch another guy wins, but whoever has the final say as to who wins, THAT is the scheduled result.
so no Jarrett was not scheduled to win because Hogan had the final say. whatever else was suggest doesn't mean shit.
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I'm not saying casual fans don't care about what happens in the ring. I'm saying it doesn't really matter the quality, whether it's a 3 star match or a 5 star match. Hogan is an example. back in the day Hogan himself was not a great wrestler. he had set moves, but he was the biggest star in wrestling. you can be a great wrestler, but if you don't have the other factors then you're less likely to be successful, but if you have the other factors and can wrestle OK then you can still become a major star.
TNA FANS ARE NOT WWF FANS FROM THE 80'S. MOST TNA FANS WATCH TNA FOR THE MATCHES.

What part of this are you not understanding?
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Oh A Swagger push? Give it 3 hours and he'll be behind bars again. This time around it will be for driving while firing a rocket launcher from atop a tank into an orphanage full of down syndrome kids waiting for Cena for their make-a-wish.
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if he used his creative control so that the match ended with him winning, then that was the scheduled result that was supposed to happen. Hogan had the final say.
it's the same as being in a meeting with the people in creative pitching ideas. one can pitch this guy wins and one can pitch another guy wins, but whoever has the final say as to who wins, THAT is the scheduled result.
so no Jarrett was not scheduled to win because Hogan had the final say. whatever else was suggest doesn't mean shit.
After reading this, I find myself asking a very simple question...why are we responding to this clueless Hogan mark?
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does TNA not have matches? go ahead and watch for the matches.
most of your audience on TV wants other factors with the wrestling. whether they are fans from the 80's, 90's, 2000's or general wrestling fans. other things are just as important. and when you're putting on a TV show you have to please the majority of your audience or you wont last on TV. then TNA fans wouldn't be able to watch for any of the matches.


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After reading this, I find myself asking a very simple question...why are we responding to this clueless Hogan mark?

please explain oh wrestling genius.

it does not matter if every other person wanted Jarrett to beat Hogan. Hogan had the final say, so HE is the deciding result. Hogan was scheduled to win because he made it that way. if he had creative control in his contract he could control whatever he wanted.
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creative control isnt a magic spell that makes people do what you want
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does TNA not have matches? go ahead and watch for the matches.
most of your audience on TV wants other factors with the wrestling. whether they are fans from the 80's, 90's, 2000's or general wrestling fans. other things are just as important. and when you're putting on a TV show you have to please the majority of your audience or you wont last on TV. then TNA fans wouldn't be able to watch for any of the matches.
This is why your rep column is red right now. We have pointed out numerous times now why that isn't the case in regards to TNA fans and why the majority of them aren't happy with the product. You're literally just ignoring facts at this point.

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please explain oh wrestling genius.

it does not matter if every other person wanted Jarrett to beat Hogan. Hogan had the final say, so HE is the deciding result. Hogan was scheduled to win because he made it that way. if he had creative control in his contract he could control whatever he wanted.
Knowledge of pro wrestling has nothing to do with common sense.

Hogan did not have the final say. Are you aware of what actually happened? Russo played the living shit out of him. He said "okay, I agree with this idea" and immediately afterwords made the plan behind Hogan's back. He could have easily told Hogan "no" and went with a different alternative. It was basically to make Hogan believe that was the plan they were going with, when in reality it was nothing more than a prank on the Hulk from a butt hurt individual named Vince Russo.
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maybe I could have worded it differently. any match Hogan was scheduled in he had control on the outcome of that match, right? for an example if he alone wanted to wrestle in a handicap match against the tag team champions, he could make it so he won both titles.


one of my biggest memories of Hogan in TNA was his fight with Sting at BFG where he turned face. it was awesome. the crowd was going crazy nuts. I remember that night also posting on a forum with less people than here and they felt the same way, that it was epic. it's too bad he couldn't use his real American song because that would have made it even better.
but don't try and tell me Hogan hasn't had a positive effect while he's been in TNA when I've seen it with my own eyes. I've seen the crowd go crazy, I've seen people in Hogan merchandise.

has Hogan done things that were bad? absolutely. I'm not saying he hasn't. but it seems people want to blame Hogan for everything in why TNA has gone backwards, when that's not the case. and if you (you reading this) are not one of people blaming Hogan for everything then congratulations you're one of the few.
I also think there were things Hogan could have done differently, like promoting better. but TNA themselves could have/should have done a better job at promoting. if TNA had promoted better/marketed better then maybe they would have had additional viewers and gotten better ratings. then people wouldn't have been able to blame Hogan for everything.

is it the money he makes, is that why people don't think Hogan should be there? personally I don't care what money Hogan makes. I don't think it makes much of a difference. most of the wrestlers no longer in TNA for whatever reason (money or other) weren't that big of a deal anyway. now if Hogan was signed in stead of some guys like Hardy or Angle or Roode or heavyweight difference makers then it would be different.

I think part of it because some wanted that other guy, and when that other guy wasn't picked they automatically would not give Hogan a chance regardless of what he did. cry and whine some more, that will help. that other guy likely would not have made a difference either, it's just how wrestling has become.

I don't really care what my rep point is, I'm not going to cry and whine because people don't agree with me.
I'm still waiting to hear what makes someone a "TNA fan". I haven't watched WWE for like 8+ years and started watching TNA in 2010. so am I not a TNA fan? or is a true TNA fan someone who has been there from the beginning, like these so called TNA original wrestlers, who more than likely all started somewhere else before TNA anyway.
whether it's TNA or WWE, there are fans that watch to see great wrestling. that is why they watch. that's awesome for those people, I have nothing against them. but I'm telling you these fans are not a majority of your viewing audience. the same as people don't watch other TV/movies for the acting ability. professional wrestling on TV is like a soap opera. more people watch for the drama/entertainment, and that means more than what happens in the ring. to some the most important part of a match is the beginning and the end, what happens in the middle is meh. you could have a sloppy back and forth match where both guys are making things look bad. then you could have one guy do a few of his spot moves and hit his finisher for the win.. and the crowd can still go crazy and people watching will be extremely entertained, even though the match itself could have been bad.
the best part IMO from this past Impact was the EGO HOF ceremony. it was just awesome, and it had nothing to do with wrestling. it was great entertainment on TV with both Kaz and Daniels were funny and entertaining. that's good TV.
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if he used his creative control so that the match ended with him winning, then that was the scheduled result that was supposed to happen. Hogan had the final say.
it's the same as being in a meeting with the people in creative pitching ideas. one can pitch this guy wins and one can pitch another guy wins, but whoever has the final say as to who wins, THAT is the scheduled result.
so no Jarrett was not scheduled to win because Hogan had the final say. whatever else was suggest doesn't mean shit.
I think you have a learning disability.

Yes, Hogan had the "final say" if you want to call it that, but that doesn't mean Jarrett going over wasn't the ORIGINAL SCHEDULED PLAN. In no world was Hogan scheduled to win anything except Hogan's head.
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