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Old 10-16-2013, 03:10 PM   #241 (permalink)
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if no one cared for the Hardy turn, it's because not enough people even knew he was in TNA. that's TNA's fault.
No one cared for it because none of the TNA fans cared for Jeff Hardy.

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"TNA" fans make up what % of the viewers on TV? 5%? 10%? I bet my fucking left nut it's small. you want to GROW a professional wrestling company with a TV show then you do it with names, and the audience watching on TV is MUCH bigger than a small percent of people that watch for 5 star matches.
5-10%...yea I think we're done here. You're basically just telling straight up lies at this point. I can't give an exact number on the amount of "TNA" fans, but to even think the number is around 10% is idiotic in of itself. I suggest you get yourself some knowledge on the TNA fan base, that would probably clear the air for you on why Hogan in TNA is a terrible idea.

The rest of your post I'm not even going to bother reading. It's probably as retarded as the 10% estimation.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:11 PM   #242 (permalink)
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Nobody has ever been able to prove that the casuals don't care about the in-ring product. You make all the percentage guesses you want but you cannot prove it.

Another lie from the Russo folklore.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:25 PM   #243 (permalink)
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I'm not saying casual fans don't care about what happens in the ring. I'm saying it doesn't really matter the quality, whether it's a 3 star match or a 5 star match. Hogan is an example. back in the day Hogan himself was not a great wrestler. he had set moves, but he was the biggest star in wrestling. you can be a great wrestler, but if you don't have the other factors then you're less likely to be successful, but if you have the other factors and can wrestle OK then you can still become a major star.

it doesn't even matter what the number is. I guarantee you of the million plus viewers on TV a majority of them care about more than just the in ring wrestling.
great wrestling matches don't really mean much without a storyline. part of what the BFG series sucks, a bunch of random matches with no feuds or storylines.
these so called TNA fans that don't care about names isn't your target audience.
what makes one a TNA fan like this anyway? so other fans that like TNA and guys like Hogan, Hardy, Angle, ect can't be true TNA fans? that's stupid itself.

it wasn't Hogan who had Jarrett lay down. Hogan was set to wrestle Jarrett and win back the championship. it was Russo who came out and made Jarrett lay down so that Hogan could win that way. I can't remember if I was watching all the time back then, but I don't disagree with this. it's Hulk Hogan, who would have made a better champion and move the ratings at the time more than Jarrett.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:30 PM   #244 (permalink)
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it wasn't Hogan who had Jarrett lay down. Hogan was set to wrestle Jarrett and win back the championship. it was Russo who came out and made Jarrett lay down so that Hogan could win that way. I can't remember if I was watching all the time back then, but I don't disagree with this. it's Hulk Hogan, who would have made a better champion and move the ratings at the time more than Jarrett.
This is absolutely false. Hogan was never set to beat Jarrett. Russo just did a shoot with KC and laid out exactly what happened. Russo gave Hogan and his attorneys a finish, which did not involve him winning the title, Hogan rejected the finish and had his attorneys send a fax over to WCW offices on a weekend when nobody was working to say as much (LOL). Once Russo actually found out Hogan rejected the initial finish that's when he came up with the worked shoot angle that later unfolded. Booker T was ALWAYS suppose to walk out of BATB 2000 as champion.
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"it wasn't Hogan who had Jarrett lay down. Hogan was set to wrestle Jarrett and win back the championship. it was Russo who came out and made Jarrett lay down so that Hogan could win that way. I can't remember if I was watching all the time back then, but I don't disagree with this. it's Hulk Hogan, who would have made a better champion and move the ratings at the time more than Jarrett."

Wrong, Hogan was to lose to Jarrett and he refused to do so and pulled his Creative Control card again like he's done so many times before so he would win. Afterwards Russo came out and ripped him apart over his antics and politics that he and others like Flair had been doing. And more people would've been interested in Jarrett as champion than they would Hogan. Everyone was sick of him in WCW in 2000 the same way everyone's sick of him in TNA in 2013
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TNAfans make up what % of the viewers on TV? 5%? 10%?
During the peak years of wrestling (WCW/WWF war) about 4% of the US population watched wrestling, and back then you didnt have netflix/hulu/youtube or torrents, so the TV ratings were a lot more accurate back then. Nowadays the total number of people who watch wrestling is more around 2% of the US population (314 million people), but lets say 3% to compensate for people who watch it online. TNA is probably around 0.5% total (maybe 0.75% if you include the online viewers).
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I can think of numerous reasons SOR that Hogan abused his power to get what he wanted.

Wrestlemania IX: Convinces them that he should win the title in the Main Event, making Yokozuna's reign end in three minutes. He then refuses to drop the belt back to Bret or even show up in WWF even once before losing at King of The Ring.

Starrcade: Set to lose the World Title to Sting at what was suppose to be the big finale and climax to the NWO saga. Instead he refuses cause he wants to be champion longer and tells Nick Patrick that he's winning begining the downward spiral for WCW.

Bash At The Beach 2000: Facing Jeff Jarrett and set to lose again uses his Creative Control Clause and makes Jarrett lie down so he can pin him.

Bound For Glory 2011: Upset that he and Sting were rightly booed out of the building he goes and changes the Main Event finish minutes before it starts which was to have Roode winning the Belt and instead Angle retains.
Booed out the building at Bfg 2011?

Tbh Roode has gone on to become one of the best heels in the world and TNA history.



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Ric Flair should have Hogan's spot.
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if Hogan used his creative control clause so that he would win and beat Jarrett, then that's the only finish that matters. anything else was vetoed or whatever so it doesn't matter.
if Hogan had in his contract that he can make the FINAL decision on his matches, then that's the final result of what was going to take place.
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if Hogan used his creative control clause so that he would win and beat Jarrett, then that's the only finish that matters. anything else was vetoed or whatever so it doesn't matter.
if Hogan had in his contract that he can make the FINAL decision on his matches, then that's the final result of what was going to take place.
He did use his creative control card, HE WALKED OUT OF THE PPV WITH THE BELT!!!!

Are you really this dense?
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