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Re: Good or bad if Hogan leaves TNA?

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since I never watched TNA before Hogan came, I can't really compare what he has helped or hurt with.

just off the start I have to say he did good by getting rid of that stupid ring. that's a win.

but how much of what has happened, has been Hogan's fault? he gets blamed for things gone bad, but no credit for things gone right.

I imagine Hogan/Bischoff had a hand in creating Immortal. I can't blame them. nWo worked so well, why not try and recreate something to even come a little close. problem is Immortal sucked in many different ways.

if/when Hogan is gone, HOW does it happen? can TNA just mention his contract expired> does it have to be some type of story line to write him out? or just not mention him anymore?


Regardless of what he has done and hasn't done, TNA will be just fine with out him. They do not need him. They can spend that massive money on things that will move this company forward.
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Regardless of what he has done and hasn't done, TNA will be just fine with out him. They do not need him. They can spend that massive money on things that will move this company forward.
I will agree. TNA will be fine without him. I hope TNA will actually improve, but I don't think it will have any connection to Hogan not being there anymore. based on how much money he makes, it's just too much for TNA right now based on what he does. even though personally I do think as an on air personality he adds a plus to TNA.
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I will agree. TNA will be fine without him. I hope TNA will actually improve, but I don't think it will have any connection to Hogan not being there anymore. based on how much money he makes, it's just too much for TNA right now based on what he does. even though personally I do think as an on air personality he adds a plus to TNA.
yeah but we have hardly seen him much in the past month and a bit. It has been really good the past few weeks.

Things will continue to sort itself out and of course change.
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Re: Good or bad if Hogan leaves TNA?

I was wondering if it might be better to write Hogan out using a story, so people know he is gone. just having his contract expire and not mentioned anymore could still have people thinking he is still with TNA. weeks could go by and people could continue to wonder, where has Hogan been? without even knowing he is actually no longer with TNA.
he is the biggest name in wrestling, so I don't think it's the same as your average wrestler's contract expiring.
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Re: Good or bad if Hogan leaves TNA?

A lot of you just don't get it.

Hulk Hogan is the Babe Ruth of wrestling, the David Beckham of wrestling yes he's old, yes he's out of shape but he can add something to the show with his excellent microphone skills and he clearly still sells merchandise and sells tickets (Hence why the most popular shirts are Hogan's and why he gets the biggest pop)

Now, if you want to get rid of Hulk, TNA can no longer go on the road probably not for at least 5 years. TNA is not big enough to build it's own stars right now and WWE basically has a lock on every big name talent that could draw the same as Hulk Hogan. The only guy I could see drawing as well as Hulk does for TNA would be Batista and he's an Actor now.

If TNA wants to go spend 5 years in a studio and never go on the road (Except for Pay Per Views) then release Hulk and let him go to WWE. If TNA is happy to do that then yes they'd save a lot of money.

I'd also like to add in that TNA as Hulk's contract owner would be receiving a cut of every deal he makes. If Hulk turns up at an indy appearance TNA makes money, if Hulk appears in WWE's video game, TNA get a cut. If Hulk goes to a talk show and is paid for his appearance, TNA gets a cut.

He doesn't lose as much money as people assume he does for TNA. He brings A LOT of benefit to TNA and I'd rather continue to grow as a company and get the perks of the Hulk Hogan brand then release him and say "Well, he can't wrestle" and let him go.
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Re: Good or bad if Hogan leaves TNA?

I do think Hogan is beneficial for TV. crowds still go crazy for him. he probably gets the loudest pop out of everyone.
I'd rather his on air time be more limited in stead of seeing him 5+ times every show.

but I also think he is kind of like a lame duck coach in sports. too many people just do not like him, and I don't see anything changing that. initially TNA might suffer some, but in the end it might be better for the overall product?

while Hogan has been in TNA, he should have done a better job of putting over the younger talent.
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A lot of you just don't get it.

Hulk Hogan is the Babe Ruth of wrestling, the David Beckham of wrestling yes he's old, yes he's out of shape but he can add something to the show with his excellent microphone skills and he clearly still sells merchandise and sells tickets (Hence why the most popular shirts are Hogan's and why he gets the biggest pop)

Now, if you want to get rid of Hulk, TNA can no longer go on the road probably not for at least 5 years. TNA is not big enough to build it's own stars right now and WWE basically has a lock on every big name talent that could draw the same as Hulk Hogan. The only guy I could see drawing as well as Hulk does for TNA would be Batista and he's an Actor now.

If TNA wants to go spend 5 years in a studio and never go on the road (Except for Pay Per Views) then release Hulk and let him go to WWE. If TNA is happy to do that then yes they'd save a lot of money.

I'd also like to add in that TNA as Hulk's contract owner would be receiving a cut of every deal he makes. If Hulk turns up at an indy appearance TNA makes money, if Hulk appears in WWE's video game, TNA get a cut. If Hulk goes to a talk show and is paid for his appearance, TNA gets a cut.

He doesn't lose as much money as people assume he does for TNA. He brings A LOT of benefit to TNA and I'd rather continue to grow as a company and get the perks of the Hulk Hogan brand then release him and say "Well, he can't wrestle" and let him go.
He's the Babe Ruth of wrestling, but hardly anyone gives a shit about him in TNA. Why? Because he add's nothing to the show and/or the company. They should have never went on the road on begin with, it was a stupid boneheaded move for a company like TNA to try and go on the road. Especially with their house shows number's still drawing less than 1000. And other than Lockdown and the show in London, they haven't had really good attendance either. And now, they supposedly want to go back to a studio because going live was a disaster. Hulk Hogan was at many of those shows, and they still didn't sell good. You know why? Because Hulk Hogan isn't a draw anymore in 2013 to a large majority of people. He hasn't boosted rating's, wasn't Hogan supposed to be the "rocket-fuel" to take TNA to the top? To be the number one company in the world? Well, that failed miserably.

Watch, Hogan will leave and he'll start spewing bullshit about how it was EVERYONE else's fault that his time in TNA wasn't a success. What, do you really think he's in TNA to help them grow? Hell no. He's in TNA for himself.

It's not that their not a big enough company to build up stars. It's just that they DON'T build up stars. Look at Samoa Joe, he was a bonefide star in 2006. He has that winning streak that put him over huge, not to mention he size and quickness that allowed him to stand out. But, than Kurty Kurt came out and guess what? Instead of continuing to put over Joe as this dominate main eventer, they job him to Kurt. It's guys like Sting and Hogan, guy's like Bully (Bubba) Ray and Jeff Hardy are the reason they can't build new stars. Sure, their booking is atrocious too, but you can't just continue to rely on stars from other companies to get you to the top, because it won't work. They gave Rob Van Dam the TNA Title on a TV taping, and the rating the week after was a 0.5. They have to build up their own stars for the future or they have no future, it's that simple.



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Re: Good or bad if Hogan leaves TNA?

I'm not a Hogan hater like lots of people are around here, but I don't believe he is worth the money that he gets - especially while TNA are reportedly having financial troubles.

That said, if Hogan goes I would still like to see Bischoff stay.
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Re: Good or bad if Hogan leaves TNA?

Hope he leaves. Frankly im sick of the same "raising the bar / taking it to new heights" promo.

I was kinda hoping bully rays lawyer from last month would somehow obtain the GM role - spoke great on the mic and had a bit of presence to him and would cost a fraction of the price.
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I'm not a Hogan hater like lots of people are around here, but I don't believe he is worth the money that he gets - especially while TNA are reportedly having financial troubles.

That said, if Hogan goes I would still like to see Bischoff stay.
Agreed, I don't hate him like a lot of people do here, but he is a double-edged sword.

Yes, he gets a huge pop at the live shows and he opens a lot of marketing/promotional doors (when they hit the UK he's all over the mainstream daytime chat shows etc - there's no way they'd get anyone else in, even Angle or Sting, because they just don't have the star power of HH to a mainstream TV audience). He may also add a bit of attraction to the casual fan who stumbles across TNA for the first time and only carries on watching because he's there. And don't underestimate this, as that's what happened to me. I saw an episode and saw Hulk and Steiner and Sting and thought, "Oh, this isn't just some cheap rassling show, it's got name guys in it. I'll watch it for a bit and see if it's any good." Admittedly, it was the X Division that made me a fan but it was the old WCW guys who caught my eye and stopped me flipping the channel in the first place.

Then again, he has a lot of downsides, too. He's expensive. There might be personal issues between him and Dixie/other TNA management. There is no actual evidence of him increasing attendances, ratings etc. And his presence could be a negative thing. People might tune in, see Hulk and think, "What? This company has that old fart in it! I thought he'd retired! What a two bit operation!" After all, when Juggalo Championship Wrestling announces a main event between Roddy Piper and Terry Funk, do you think, "Wow, they have a big name main event!" or do you think, "Wow, they're really dredging the barrel with guys who are years past their prime." It cuts both ways.

Not a Hulk-hater, but I think he should go. I'd like to see a new start and a fresh direction from TNA.
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