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Old 08-22-2013, 09:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Who cares if they aren't obligated, it's called doing what's morally right. Quit being cheap fucks and take care of these wrestlers regardless of their position on the card. I know wrestling has carny roots, but fuck, no reason to act like a fucking carny.

Two words for you: "Professional responsibility".
Right. TNA has to be responsible for its business. Paying for health insurance when its employee isn't responsible to have his own would be irresponsible.

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I think you'd be thinking differently if it were you.
But it's not me. Like I said, I'm responsible enough to have my own insurance.

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the cost of a health plan for a pro wrestler is more than most of these guys/girls in tna make a year...
Did someone put a gun to his head and force Sorensen to be a pro wrestler? He made a choice to go into wrestling, and he knew the risks. If he failed to get his own insurance, that's on him.

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He was insured. That's "Personally Responsible".

All right. Let me take this to an extreme. Lets say while on duty a cop gets shot, a firefighter gets burned, a soldier wounded, a paramedic injured in a crash, a coal miner gets injured in a mine collapse or any of a thousand other jobs and incidents. Do you think their employer has no moral, not legal, but moral obligation to help them out?
That's a dumb analogy. Those professions provide insurance. It comes with being a part of a union.

Even the WWE doesn't provide health insurance for its wrestlers.
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Old 08-22-2013, 09:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Considering Ditzy is a so-called "Billion Dollar Princess", you'd think she'd take care of everyone under her employ.

But then you think of Daffney, this situation, the fact she probably has Vince McMahon pay for the rehab of those working for her... You'd just want to sock her in the mouth for being an irresponsible cheap-ass bitch.
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That's a dumb analogy. Those professions provide insurance. It comes with being a part of a union.

Even the WWE doesn't provide health insurance for its wrestlers.
Fine it's a stupid analogy. Let me try again. A guy works in a factory. No union. An accident happens and through no fault of his own he ends up with a mangled hand. The injured man has insurance through his wife, but it doesn't cover everything. Do you feel the company has no moral obligation to help him out?

WWE does pay for their talent's surgeries. They pay for their rehab. TNA couldn't have paid what insurance didn't?
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Right. TNA has to be responsible for its business. Paying for health insurance when its employee isn't responsible to have his own would be irresponsible.
"Responsible for its business"

You mean the business that Jesse put his health in danger for? Gotcha.
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Fine it's a stupid analogy. Let me try again. A guy works in a factory. No union. An accident happens and through no fault of his own he ends up with a mangled hand. The injured man has insurance through his wife, but it doesn't cover everything. Do you feel the company has no moral obligation to help him out?
Nope. Not at all. Once again, you are responsible for your own insurance. I wouldn't work for a company that didn't provide me insurance.
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Fine it's a stupid analogy. Let me try again. A guy works in a factory. No union. An accident happens and through no fault of his own he ends up with a mangled hand. The injured man has insurance through his wife, but it doesn't cover everything. Do you feel the company has no moral obligation to help him out?

WWE does pay for their talent's surgeries. They pay for their rehab. TNA couldn't have paid what insurance didn't?
WWE owns the market. They have money. TNA doesn't. It's simple as that. They are firing people left and right (including Hulk's daughter) just to survive. Do you really think they have money to pay for someone else's bill?

It's not the "they don't want to" case. They just can't.
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WWE owns the market. They have money. TNA doesn't. It's simple as that. They are firing people left and right (including Hulk's daughter) just to survive. Do you really think they have money to pay for someone else's bill?

It's not the "they don't want to" case. They just can't.
I was making the point that they do pay after Jasmine said they don't provide insurance for their employees. I think they had the money a year and a half ago when the accident happened. Hell they could have used Brooke's salary. Since she was hired out of nepotism anyway. I think they are owned by a very successful energy company that could have ponied up if TNA couldn't.

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Nope. Not at all. Once again, you are responsible for your own insurance. I wouldn't work for a company that didn't provide me insurance.
Well then you are lucky to be able to pick and choose who you work for based on that criteria. What happens though if the day comes you really need a job and all that's available is no insurance jobs?

I'm all for personal responsibility. Here's the thing though. You can do everything right. Not screw up once and things can still go bad. If that happens you'll hope that someone won't say cry me a river, you need to be personally responsible.
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Again didn't TNA give him an office job with higher than average pay for almost 2 years? I'd hardly call that doing nothing
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Again didn't TNA give him an office job with higher than average pay for almost 2 years? I'd hardly call that doing nothing
I never said they did nothing. I just feel that they should have covered what his insurance didn't. I wonder how much more than average the pay was for his job as a P.A.
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Oh, cry me a river. He should have had his own health plan, like I do. Two little words for you: "Personal Responsibility."
I'm pretty sure if really difficult for wrestlers to get health insurance.
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