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Matt Morgan DESTROYS IWC

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
He talks about Internet fans in general and how when he was in the WWE people saw him and criticised him as not being able to work, and doesn't take very kindly to the Internet fans barbs. What do you think? Warranted or undeserved?

 
#31 ·
"These people haven't seen a vagina since they've been in a vagina"

"These people are so fat they eat one bag of doritos"

"I have more athleticism in my cock than they have in their whole body"

I must say this is probably one of his most entertaining videos I've ever seen from him, even though I disagree with his points the entertainment is still there, don't recall many wrestlers whose jimmies have been so rustled to come with above mentioned lines. He must have had really low self-esteem during that time, you can tell from his facial expression aka the depressed look and his voice.

Imho he's not all that as a performer, he just lacks the "IT" factor, his gimmick is too plain. Only time he was entertaining was when he was the Tag Team Champion(s). He's probably one of those guys that would benefit from having a unique suit, a unique hairdo and unique gimmick. For the most part he's always just been an extremely tall dude, but without the menacing factor most giants have due to his booking and in-ring style. You only realize how big he is once he stands next to some wrestler, if you go by his selling and his moveset you'd think he's barely 6 foot tall. If Undertaker sold moves like Dolph Ziggler or Heath Slater and never evolved from Mean Mark Callous he wouldn't have been very succesful either.
 
#32 ·
He talks about Internet fans in general and how when he was in the WWE people saw him and criticised him as not being able to work, and doesn't take very kindly to the Internet fans barbs. What do you think? Warranted or undeserved?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjmutpur6Hw
I'd say those internet fans were pretty correct about Morgan in WWE, he was just horrible. Of course being stuck with that S-s-st-STUTTERING gimmick didn't help him much either. He has improved some in TNA though. I actually wouldnt be mad at a short title reign for him.
 
#33 ·
When the internet came to fruition, anybody interested in the backstage stuff became a wannabe Meltzer. But it is not a difficult job to rate a wrestling match - although a degree of subjectiveness comes into play.

Unfortunately for Matt, Dave Meltzer has not rated him in anything above a **1/2 match since 2009.
 
#35 ·
I see where Morgan is coming from, and to an extent even agree with him. I think his comments are aimed at a SECTIOn of the IWC, you know the type: the proper msierable, trollish, bitter haters, rather than the people who just want to chat about the wrestling they just watched on TV in the manner two people sitting at a bar might. Some people do go OTT in their hate of something and if I were Morgan having to read that, I'd probably be annoyed to seeing as I'm the TV star and their eating Dori.... just watching the show.
 
#47 ·
He has a point but the way he said it (+ his shaky voice where he starts almost crying) shows that he is really upset about some comments on the internet. He mad :lol

I have more athleticism in my cock than they have in their whole body
Funny how people with no cock at all like Trish Stratus and Lita, recently AJ Lee and soon Paige are more relevant and will be in 10 years more relevant than Mr. athletic cock himself. He really mad :lol
 
#55 ·
Could care less about this nobodys opinion, and any wrestler who gets butthurt about people discussing the aspects of wrestling, the characters, the matches etc. Some of these wrestlers are so bone-idol, yes we dont know behind the scenes but from what we see on television paints a thousand words.

Anyway, Matt Morgan - who is he? oh yeh hes the stutter guy from years back :L
 
#59 ·
I never take wrestlers who criticize the "IWC" by insulting them seriously.

Personally I've been watching wrestling since I was 9 and I'm 27 now. I like to think I have a good idea of what makes for a good or bad match and what makes a wrestler a good or bad wrestler. Based on what I have seen of him, Matt Morgan is a bad wrestler. Good character, decent mic worker, but in the ring, he sucks.

I think it's pretty pathetic when wrestlers resort to lame jokes about virginity and sex and say vagina 19 times to insult people who talk about wrestling online. We're expressing our opinions. Do some of us go over a line? Of course. That doesn't mean our points aren't valid. Relying on weak stereotypes like Morgan does makes his arguments weaker since it's just a personal attack.
 
#60 ·
To be honest with you, I actually agree with him that the IWC in general is really freaking stupid as far as understanding how the real world of Pro Wrestling works, how to go over, how to lose properly to not be buried by it, how to promote, how to book, and frankly how to do what it takes to be a success at it.

I am no wonder guy at it either, but at least I know a basic amount from following it since I was a kid, and in my adult life, doing it, and being around it. I know the difference between a good interview and a shit one. I (unlike most people on here) know that if you are given a shit gimmick, shit booking, shit writing, or even something as simple as shit music...you are NOT going over. I get so sick of hearing about how (a pro should be able to make it work) HORSE SHIT...Y2J's recent history proves this fact...he is a legend, but with the crap they give him to work with, he lately could not draw a dime. Matt Morgan was given the same damn gimmick that has killed how many wrestlers in the WWE? Vince must think speech problems are funny or something because he has done it so many times its sad, and it always bombs! Then they blame the wrestler instead of the stupid gimmick for why he could not get over.

I also hate how the IWC hates everyone that is not basically a carbon copy indy guy, or a mat technician. There are other wrestling styles you know...Frankly if a guy like Mark Henry wrestled a mostly mat based attack I would be wondering what the hell is going on. Why would a man that resembles a grizzly bear fight like that? Answer is, HE WOULDN'T!!

Morgan is just angry about the same thing all wrestlers hate the IWC for...basically being nothing but smartass marks.
 
#106 ·
To be honest with you, I actually agree with him that the IWC in general is really freaking stupid as far as understanding how the real world of Pro Wrestling works, how to go over, how to lose properly to not be buried by it, how to promote, how to book, and frankly how to do what it takes to be a success at it.

I am no wonder guy at it either, but at least I know a basic amount from following it since I was a kid, and in my adult life, doing it, and being around it. I know the difference between a good interview and a shit one. I (unlike most people on here) know that if you are given a shit gimmick, shit booking, shit writing, or even something as simple as shit music...you are NOT going over. I get so sick of hearing about how (a pro should be able to make it work) HORSE SHIT...Y2J's recent history proves this fact...he is a legend, but with the crap they give him to work with, he lately could not draw a dime. Matt Morgan was given the same damn gimmick that has killed how many wrestlers in the WWE? Vince must think speech problems are funny or something because he has done it so many times its sad, and it always bombs! Then they blame the wrestler instead of the stupid gimmick for why he could not get over.

I also hate how the IWC hates everyone that is not basically a carbon copy indy guy, or a mat technician. There are other wrestling styles you know...Frankly if a guy like Mark Henry wrestled a mostly mat based attack I would be wondering what the hell is going on. Why would a man that resembles a grizzly bear fight like that? Answer is, HE WOULDN'T!!

Morgan is just angry about the same thing all wrestlers hate the IWC for...basically being nothing but smartass marks.
Oh yeah?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjHpnoCag-g

That being said, you don't have to be in the business to have an opinion on a wrestler. Morgan's like Lex Luger in that he can have a good match with the right opponent (like Kurt Angle or AJ Styles), but if he isn't against someone who can carry, the match falls apart (Abyss, Hernandez, Crimson). The ship's sailed on him becoming a top guy too as the best time would have been in late 2009 or early 2010. Those Hernandez and Crimson feuds killed all his momentum, along with his rushed face turn with the concussion storyline in 2010.
 
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