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Especially that last year from Booker when he was in the MEM and was in full "Fuck you, pay me" mode. His career in TNA could be summed up by his last match at BFG 09 where, since he didn't want to job to Matt Morgan (can't blame him there) he somehow gets them to agree to do a stretcher job in a FMM match, and then treats that like a complete joke and can't even hold a straight face doing it.

As for AJ, I think it's partially wanting to push him because they think he deserved it but wanted to freshen him up and partly it was because they think he's so good he might be able to carry some of the things and people he was saddled with.
Not surprised by it. More surprised when a "big name" joins TNA and actually puts the work in. Which, oddly enough, was Scott Steiner more than some others looking back. Booker really seemed to stop caring once his program with Roode flopped. Unless he crapped all over that too b/c those lads had no chemistry.

I think you nailed it. Styles is a life-long company man. While he may not enjoy being saddled with some shit, he'll still do it b/c the advent of another golden era shouldn't be far off. That's how he's usually booked. Well, latter years at least. On top of the X-Division, then becomes second fiddle heel to Angle, face turn, working vs MMA chumps and semi-past their prime workers, World Champion, etc...

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That's true, but on this occasion I didn't mind, due to the MMA influences in the match. I saw it as him just getting caught with a perfect KO shot, like what often happens in MMA events. With the state of Angle's neck, plus the physical intensity of the match, I thought it was pretty logical that monstrous kick would have Angle on dream street, with the Muscle buster making it a formality. It was cool because I was half expecting Angle to somehow kick out and reverse into his Ankle lock.

The finish to the legends title match made it all the more insane. I mean Sharmell throwing in the towel? The audience reaction summed my own feelings to that mess.

Booker hamming it up in his last match, was the icing on a very disappointing cake. Sure I was entertained by some of his antics, but the fact he was getting away with it made it all the more surreal.
All fair points. Can't help but accept what you got when the worry of Angle's superman no selling tripe could have been around the corner. I can understand that.

I remember actually not having much of a problem with Styles vs Booker I Quit until the bunk finish. Been a good while since I last saw it, however. Talking back in 2009. One of the few Booker matches from TNA where I didn't mind the overall match. When it comes to crap & Booker not caring in TNA, I jump immediately to the program vs Joe. Victory Road match is one of the company's worst moments.

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Guys Anybody likes Rampage's mic skills? I think it is pretty refreshing, I haven heard a voice or accent like that for a long time. He sound like the Hood. I can see why he is an actor foremost. Like
"Aevery buddi Noe..... we gonna fight, Aevery buddi Noe..... But that's something else..... something different.... We need chour help.... I never asked you for nothing.... Let's take out the Aces! and Eights! Next Week!" Crowd goes crazy

While Ortiz mic skills dims like a retard
"Huh? What? you want me ? to join you? I dont understand the words coming out of your mouth...... huh?"

Anyone agrees with me? yes every has a right to opinions. honestly I'm looking for people to agree with me. So call me a mark. Honestly who would walk into a room with people disagree with you every though, work in a place where your co worker disagrees, or live in a family who disapproves you?
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I agree.
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Not surprised by it. More surprised when a "big name" joins TNA and actually puts the work in. Which, oddly enough, was Scott Steiner more than some others looking back. Booker really seemed to stop caring once his program with Roode flopped. Unless he crapped all over that too b/c those lads had no chemistry.

I think you nailed it. Styles is a life-long company man. While he may not enjoy being saddled with some shit, he'll still do it b/c the advent of another golden era shouldn't be far off. That's how he's usually booked. Well, latter years at least. On top of the X-Division, then becomes second fiddle heel to Angle, face turn, working vs MMA chumps and semi-past their prime workers, World Champion, etc...



All fair points. Can't help but accept what you got when the worry of Angle's superman no selling tripe could have been around the corner. I can understand that.

I remember actually not having much of a problem with Styles vs Booker I Quit until the bunk finish. Been a good while since I last saw it, however. Talking back in 2009. One of the few Booker matches from TNA where I didn't mind the overall match. When it comes to crap & Booker not caring in TNA, I jump immediately to the program vs Joe. Victory Road match is one of the company's worst moments.
It's awful in every way. When Nash puts on a better showing with Joe in his crippled state, you know you got a lazy dud of a worker. Booker was probably expecting TNA to be a cushy job till retirement. Soon he realized he was in with tough young competition, he decided against upping his game, expecting to ride off the coattails of his WWE and WCW runs.

Takes me back to Joe's semi-shoot from turning point. It's amazing how its still relevant to the current situation.

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It's awful in every way. When Nash puts on a better showing with Joe in his crippled state, you know you got a lazy dud of a worker. Booker was probably expecting TNA to be a cushy job till retirement. Soon he realized he was in with tough young competition, he decided against upping his game, expecting to ride off the coattails of his WWE and WCW runs.

Takes me back to Joe's semi-shoot from turning point. It's amazing how its still relevant to the current situation.
Seriously. Nash's work vs Joe demolishes his series vs Booker. On unfair levels.

Dude, yes. I often go back to that b/c it's ironic how Joe cut the promo back in 2007 (when he still had a future) and nowadays in 2013 when he's floating around he's supposed to be content. C'mon now. That promo speaks volumes on where he's currently at. And aspects of the company too. Aka Rampage & Ortiz yada yada yada.

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Yea, part of me doesn't want to admit it, but Joe's done. Made to many enemies, nobody in management seems to want to give him something to work with. It's impressive Joe is still somewhat over, especially for a badass to lose as much as he does.

The TNA originals will have some book to write if TNA ever go under.

Out of the vet's, Nash and Steiner have been the two that have stood out. Steiner especially never half-assed and Nash has had the occasional good match.

Steiner bullying of Bobby Lashley was also incredibly entertaining.

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Oh yeah. Sure he's not quite the jobber he was in 2011, but he's done. Doesn't have a chance at getting to the level he once was at. We'll only have to hope Magnus can rise up and have a successful career. Still a bit shocked Joe was Television Champion and got a chance to have the good series vs Magnus, tbhayley. It's that dire for him, imo.

Steiner carrying Lashley to a - albeit sloppy - brawl on Turning Point 2009 was legit. Hardly dub the match to be good, but it had it's entertaining moments only thanks to Scott himself. Of course the promos speak for themselves.

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Oh yeah. Sure he's not quite the jobber he was in 2011, but he's done. Doesn't have a chance at getting to the level he once was at. We'll only have to hope Magnus can rise up and have a successful career. Still a bit shocked Joe was Television Champion and got a chance to have the good series vs Magnus, tbhayley. It's that dire for him, imo.

Steiner carrying Lashley to a - albeit sloppy - brawl on Turning Point 2009 was legit. Hardly dub the match to be good, but it had it's entertaining moments only thanks to Scott himself. Of course the promos speak for themselves.
Since Dixie personally hired him, I do have higher hopes for Magnus. With the rumors about AJ leaving, maybe they strap a rocket to Magnus. After his recent match with Roode and the Joe series, I'm finally sold on the guy. He's the sort of guy that appeals to all sections of the audience.

He character and mic-work needs a little polishing, but he's really come along as a talent. I can't believe he's still mid-20's, quite scary potential right there.

Yea the match was a fun little brawl, but good god, the promos and backstage skits were awesome.



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He's come leaps and bounds to where he was in 2009 & past years. Strong improvement after each day. I can see him working out well for TNA. If they allow the chance to happen. Not so certain the BFG series lead will be his push, but I hope it is. Fans react to him and he's the only guy to where the MEM association can actually be used as a positive to climb the ranks. It's gonna take a lot for TNA to screw the push up. Lets just hope that doesn't happen.



Dang. I tried looking for his promo from Turning Point 2009 right now. No luck. He talks about pinning Lashley on his front lawn and screws up saying the word "Conquests."

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