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Old 03-03-2013, 04:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Post Did TNA waste their biggest pipe bomb yet?

The numbers in detail are a rough description, common knowledge and what could of been are merely my opinion not factual.

Not often are pipe bombs around anymore... This doesn't have much relevance to CM Punks words of wisdom about Pipe Bombs btw..

I'm talking about the kind of pipe bomb where Sting would show up to face taker... Goldberg vs Sting... Or a major WWE star showing up on TNA again.

One pipe bomb was infact Hogan coming to TNA.

1.5 was the famous rating that also went head to head with RAW.

That's actually seriously impressive and also showed that it was the worst decision to put that on Monday night raw.

now this part is opinion also (remember that!)

in 2009 averagely 1.6 million viewers were watching TNA on Thursdays.
when TNA went head to head on RAW.. 0.6 million

so minimum of 600,000 loyal fans.

put that on Hogans Debut... What 2 million fans tuned in.
That's incredible! 1.4 million non loyal fans tuned in.

if you're still keeping up get this..

Move Hogans debut to Thursday night, Optimistically you got your 1.6 million viewers back.. Add on the 400,000-1 million fans that went over to WWE to see RAW... Then add on the WWE fans that would of watched it anyway which is purely a small guess of 250,000.

If you didn't get that and its complicated, I'm saying if Hogan did a Thursday night debut.. He could of had 3m to 3.5m viewers instead of Just over 2m... Rating COULD have even reached a 2.0 which COULD have competed with Smackdown.

First pipe bomb went off nicely but wasn't exactly nuclear due to Monday night.

Second Pipe bomb (and not so complicated this one
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at the time Jeff Hardy was the man in WWE and when he showed up that night, he was still one of the hottest faces and top free agents in the business.... I like the element of surprise but when you have the former WWE champion and selling power that Jeff Hardy had in 2009... I'd advertise!!
instead he showed up un announced, I think what he did with that x division match was pointless. Beat up a bad guy for no reason and sat on the cage... Bravo??

thirdly.. Ric Flair, his TNA debut was nice.. Sure! But AJ announcing a new manager, lights go out, flair comes out, would of been good!

lastly on that night, they could of taken that out of the impact zone, it would of sold, it would of looked good for all those viewers I'm "guessing" would have tuned in!

So IF TNA did have around 3 million viewers on that Thursday night that didn't happen... They would of gained around 1.4 million viewers... Who would of seen Hardy, Flair, and the others. AND the influx of TNA's own which were nothing but pure impressive that night.

hey maybe they could come back after wasting the highest debut of globally known wrestlers (Hogan, Hardy, Flair etc.)

But then they went head to head with a company that reals in upto 4 times the amount of fans TNA did??! It was the worst decision ever made by TNA... Their "little" pipe bomb of Hogans debut is now completely turned to ash as TNA lost a million viewers every week!!

I strongly believe that's why average 1.2 and 1.3's in 2009 are now average 1.0's and 1.1's in 2012/2013

My question is... What if I'm right??? on those guessed numbers on a Thursday night debut by Hogan..

What if they never went to Monday nights and focused on themselves.. What if they had brought in Hardy with a bigger impact that night..

would the potential 1.5 extra million viewers stuck around a little longer than the one night?

could TNA be averagely be pulling an optimistic 2-3 million viewers by now if they hadn't wasted these pipe bombs?

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Old 03-03-2013, 05:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm not sure why you are using the term pipe bomb but any way OP I read your post and a few things come to mind. 1. The show was a complete train wreck booking wise and i it was done better TNA my have picked up a lot of new fans that night and 2. I'm sure this was all discussed three years ago when it happened to death.

Missed opportunity, you bet. But TNA have put their company on the back of heir home grown talent as of late plus their biggest star in Hardy. Their shows have been booked very well for awhile now and there really isn't time to cry over spilt milk that has been cleaned up for over a year.
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Agreed.

Hogan TNA debute
Jeff Hardy heel turn
Aces and Eights

And some big big matches.

Can you imagine if all those things happend now? TNA would blow the roof off even more.

But at the same time, they wouldnt be this far without this happening.

So I just pray to god they got more shockers.
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Pipe bomb? Lol, that doesn't even make sense.
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I'm not sure why you are using the term pipe bomb but any way OP .
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Doubt it. TNA lost alot of viewers myself included when they scrapped the 6 sided ring. I am STILL yet to watch a full impact episode since and probably never will again.

I dont watch RAW ive never watched Smackdown TNA being something different was the only thing that got me watching full episodes of wrestling again. Ill still go to house shows occasionally but TNA becoming a WWE-Lite killed it for me. So now ill only watch youtube highlights when im bored.
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Doubt it. TNA lost alot of viewers myself included when they scrapped the 6 sided ring. I am STILL yet to watch a full impact episode since and probably never will again.

I dont watch RAW ive never watched Smackdown TNA being something different was the only thing that got me watching full episodes of wrestling again. Ill still go to house shows occasionally but TNA becoming a WWE-Lite killed it for me. So now ill only watch youtube highlights when im bored.
TNA is nothing like WWE at the moment you should really give it a try. To be honest the six sided ring didn't add THAT much to the product I just think it was literally there to make a statement that they wanted to be different to the WWE when in reality the six sided ring made a difference to the odd match here and there but wasn't revolutionary.
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Ok to anyone going to discuss the term pipe bomb.. Please leave CM Punks version out of it. Lol
Pipe bomb is the perfect word for this because I'm indicating that night could of 'dramatically' increased rating, fans, and been at a competing level with Smackdown by now all starting with that one show TRIPLING RATINGS.. So yes I'd call it a pipe bomb in some respects.
try sticking to topic or don't comment. Think it should be called something else, then pretend in your head then debate if it makes you feel better.

I agree with that spilt milk comment btw! You wouldn't think I would eh! Haha... I actually love todays TNA, I'm nothing but excited about Lockdown, live events... But cleaned it up a year ago?? No they haven't. Ratings aren't on solid 1.2's like they used to be. Before Hogan, and MEM was running the show they were hitting 1.3's like it was normal. So I don't think they cleaned up yet.
they had their own talent back then too, despite MEM, they Styles, Joe, Roode battling with Booker, Abyss, you name it.
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Doubt it. TNA lost alot of viewers myself included when they scrapped the 6 sided ring. I am STILL yet to watch a full impact episode since and probably never will again.

I dont watch RAW ive never watched Smackdown TNA being something different was the only thing that got me watching full episodes of wrestling again. Ill still go to house shows occasionally but TNA becoming a WWE-Lite killed it for me. So now ill only watch youtube highlights when im bored.
No TNA, no WWE...Do you watch wrestling at all? I mean you must or why the hell you are in a wrestling forum?
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Doubt it. TNA lost alot of viewers myself included when they scrapped the 6 sided ring. I am STILL yet to watch a full impact episode since and probably never will again.

I dont watch RAW ive never watched Smackdown TNA being something different was the only thing that got me watching full episodes of wrestling again. Ill still go to house shows occasionally but TNA becoming a WWE-Lite killed it for me. So now ill only watch youtube highlights when im bored.
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