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Old 02-23-2013, 01:57 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I enjoyed Zema Ion's run as the x division champ, for a heel the guy's roots are very suited for a babyface.
Maybe there's money on that, he can't be waiting for sorensen to return forever.
RVD as the champ doesn't hurt or help anyone, it's name value. The guy that beats him will get over easily if booked correctly.
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TNA has done great things with the X division but they also almost destroyed it's own legacy. Even if the X is not spotlight worthy (unfortunately) for TNA booking right now, i still think TNA will eventually realize the potential of it. But having RVD as champion sure isn't helping anyone.
I mean since its inception, its really been nothing more than a CW Division with a flashy name. I do think they need better talent though, York is just horrible in all areas, RVD is RVD, Ion is decent at best, along with KK.
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I mean since its inception, its really been nothing more than a CW Division with a flashy name. I do think they need better talent though, York is just horrible in all areas, RVD is RVD, Ion is decent at best, along with KK.
I seriously recommend you taking a year off of posting to learn more about wrestling. I feel like you rarely watch wrestling, and you just go off random reputations to assume shot. You say things like Sheik Bashir would have learned from wrestling by spending time with Muhammed Hassan, which is just ridiculous, and then this. The X-Division has always been the one of the best things about the company. The CW division was never taken as seriously as the X-Division even is today.

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I enjoyed Zema Ion's run as the x division champ, for a heel the guy's roots are very suited for a babyface.
Maybe there's money on that, he can't be waiting for sorensen to return forever.
RVD as the champ doesn't hurt or help anyone, it's name value. The guy that beats him will get over easily if booked correctly.
Yeah, Ion is a really hard working guy and with the hard past, it's hard for me not to cheer for him honestly. He's so awesome too and has so much potential.
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I seriously recommend you taking a year off of posting to learn more about wrestling. I feel like you rarely watch wrestling, and you just go off random reputations to assume shot. You say things like Sheik Bashir would have learned from wrestling by spending time with Muhammed Hassan, which is just ridiculous, and then this. The X-Division has always been the one of the best things about the company. The CW division was never taken as seriously as the X-Division even is today.



Yeah, Ion is a really hard working guy and with the hard past, it's hard for me not to cheer for him honestly. He's so awesome too and has so much potential.
I just go off random reputations to assume shot? Well I'm actually a Cena fan unlike most of this forum, so I doubt that I'm just going off everyones opinion, you just happen to

And yes Bashir did get better mic worker by being around Muhammad Hassan. Actually watch his time in WWE, compared to his time in TNA. He's improved by alot. I honestly don't see how that's ridiculous, Being around a great promo cutter for years who's gimmick is exactly the same as yours, might just rub off on you.

No one takes the X-Division serious but the internet. The only time it was really major was when TNA was still in its beginning years, and even than TNA finally realized that its not really something that draws. Most of the wrestlers that have even came in the Division were spot monkeys, or had no personality.
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I just go off random reputations to assume shot? Well I'm actually a Cena fan unlike most of this forum, so I doubt that I'm just going off everyones opinion, you just happen to

And yes Bashir did get better mic worker by being around Muhammad Hassan. Actually watch his time in WWE, compared to his time in TNA. He's improved by alot. I honestly don't see how that's ridiculous, Being around a great promo cutter for years who's gimmick is exactly the same as yours, might just rub off on you.

No one takes the X-Division serious but the internet. The only time it was really major was when TNA was still in its beginning years, and even than TNA finally realized that its not really something that draws. Most of the wrestlers that have even came in the Division were spot monkeys, or had no personality.


Bashir was Hassan's kayfabe manager for less than a year, and things like that don't rub off on you. Kofi has been CM Punk's best friend for what, 3 or 4 years, and Kofi is still just as ass on the mic as he's always been. Also, Hassan's gimmick was not the same as Daivari, at all. You're basically just guessing stuff and hoping it's correct. Just stop dude.

The X-Division has always been bigger than the Cruiserweight Division. It does draw to an extent, people recognize and respect the athleticism and skill needed to do things like the stuff that AJ Styles does. And that last part is completely incorrect and has nothing to do with the discussion.

Like I said, just try to take some time off of posting and just watch a few matches and stuff before guessing shit. Zema and KK average in the ring? Christian York terrible? wut.
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Bashir was Hassan's kayfabe manager for less than a year, and things like that don't rub off on you. Kofi has been CM Punk's best friend for what, 3 or 4 years, and Kofi is still just as ass on the mic as he's always been. Also, Hassan's gimmick was not the same as Daivari, at all. You're basically just guessing stuff and hoping it's correct. Just stop dude.

The X-Division has always been bigger than the Cruiserweight Division. It does draw to an extent, people recognize and respect the athleticism and skill needed to do things like the stuff that AJ Styles does. And that last part is completely incorrect and has nothing to do with the discussion.

Like I said, just try to take some time off of posting and just watch a few matches and stuff before guessing shit. Zema and KK average in the ring? Christian York terrible? wut.
Mic skills can rub off on others. Yes Bashir was Hassan's manager for less than a year, We don't know what Daivari was learning from Hassan in that time, that he could've been using to adapt his own Sheik Abdul Bashir character. Also with Kofi, 1. He's never even given time to talk & 2. Since when have Kofi or Punk been best friends? They don't even have the same character as Hassan & Daivari.

Hassan & Daivari have the exact same character. It's the same Anti-American schtik that has been going on since the days of Iron Sheik, except in this case its Arab-Americans who after 9/11 feel they have been discriminated against by Americans as terrorists. Maybe the execution of the gimmick may be different but at the core, Daivari & Hassan have the exact same gimmick.

The X-Division doesn't draw. Has it ever increased a bump in ratings? Gotten more money for TNA? Brought in more of an audience for TNA? That is the actual definition of draw. Has it done any of those things since the first few years of TNA? And yes the last part has to do with the discussion, You wanted to compare that the X-Division is better than the CW Division, when the likes of Benoit, Malenko, Jericho, Guerrero, Mysterio, & Jushin Liger are better than most of the guys to step foot in the X-Division.

I never said Zema & KK, were average? I said they were in decent, which can easily be taken as good but not great. I personally feel King should've been X-Division Champion, a year ago, during Destination X time. And yes I still find York to be bad. See no appeal in him.
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^^^^Punk and Kofi are besties IRL
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Only if he ups his work ethic. RVD has already hurt his legacy by half-assing it in TNA.
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Only if he ups his work ethic. RVD has already hurt his legacy by half-assing it in TNA.
He could be on WWE dancing with brodus clay and smoking weed with swagger.
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