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Nigel McGuinness was almost fired for wrestling too well as a heel

This is from a profile on Nigel McGuinness and his documentary.

http://m.deadspin.com/5984273/how-on...a-deli-counter

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...Now known as "Desmond Wolfe," McGuinness says the next two months were the highlight of his career. His program with Kurt Angle drew raves. He was making good money, on pace for six figures in 2010, and he was relaxed. While once so nervous before his matches in Ring of Honor, working with a pro like Angle was a breeze. It was that magic he dreamed of as a kid in England.

His monster push ended almost as soon as Hulk Hogan debuted in TNA in January 2010. Hogan had an unclear role. He wasn't wrestling or exactly booking the shows but he held considerable power and planned on using former WWE talent to attract casual wrestling fans. He also carried certain viewpoints about wrestling. One specific tenet was that heels can't outwrestle baby faces. Back in the 1980s, bad guys mostly kicked, punched, or eye-gouged; King Kong Bundy didn't chain wrestle. McGuinness, on the other hand, would go from an arm bar to an arm lock, showing off his repertoire. It didn't go over well in Hogan's locker room, and McGuinness was nearly fired. He languished in the undercard for a few months. By September 2010, he was off television...
The whole article is a really good read. So does that sound plausible? His push did seem to take a hit when Hogan and Bischoff came in. He won that Championship Ranking to determine the number one contender that was fan voted and then RVD squashed him in three minutes.


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I remember Kurt Angle talking about this in an interview back when Nigel was still with TNA. If I remember correctly, Angle said that Nigel, while having a lot of in-ring ability, did not know how to work as a heel. A heel's job is to make the babyfaces look good and not outshine them, and Nigel was outshining them and "eating them up" (I *think* this was how Angle put it or something along those lines). IIRC, Angle said this was the reason why Nigel's push was decreased and that he [Angle] was one of the guys trying to teach him how to work as an effective heel.

I don't know about Nigel being in danger of being fired because of it but there's definitely something to the story of people backstage not liking how Nigel worked [as a heel].

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Yeah it makes sense. The heels job is technically to not get liked by the crowd. I can see where this would be a problem.
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I remember Kurt Angle talking about this in an interview back when Nigel was still with TNA. If I remember correctly, Angle said Nigel didn't know how to work as a heel. A heel's job is to make the babyfaces look good and not outshine them, and Nigel was outshining them and "eating them up" (I *think* this was how Angle put it or something along those lines). IIRC, Angle said this was the reason why Nigel's push was decreased and that he [Angle] was one of the guys trying to teach him how to work as an effective heel.

I don't know about Nigel being in danger of being fired because of it but there's definitely something to the story of people backstage not liking how Nigel worked [as a heel].
I wonder how much of that was Kurt playing the company man at the time he said it. In the same piece I linked to, Kurt said this.

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McGuinness quickly regrouped and joined TNA, debuting in a spectacular main event program with 1996 Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle. "[We] clicked," Angle told me during a November 2011 interview. "I thought he was going to be the next champion. I told [everyone] that we got to push this kid. He's awesome."

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Yeah Hogan hates heels that can work just like Robert Roode...oh wait..


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Yeah Hogan hates heels that can work just like Robert Roode...oh wait..
Robert Roode is a natural heel to me.
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Austin Aries? AJ Styles?

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I miss Nigel

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Re: Nigel McGuinness was almost fired for wrestling too well as a heel

In fairness to Nigel McGuniess. He had only started off in the company. Kurt Angle was already established, and everyone knew who he was. So for Nigel who was only coming in at the time, he needed to show what he had in the ring to get over with the fans.

Besides, i've seen guys like Chris Benoit out wrestle faces plenty of times when he was a heel.

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He was too awesome to be a heel. How can you hate someone who goes around calling people wankers


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