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Old 02-16-2013, 09:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Nigel was a tremendous heel in TNA. Fuck Hogan.
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Nigel out working everyone out wrestling is not his fault. Have your faces step their game up. Also doesn't having a heel who looks amazing like he can beat anyone seem like a bigger victory then some shlep throwing strikes?

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Default Re: Nigel McGuinness was almost fired for wrestling too well as a heel

I get what they're saying about heels not outshining babyfaces, but that is a bit archaic in this day and age. I still viewed Desmond as the heel regardless, and he was great at playing a heel persona. And in the end of both of their matches, Kurt still out-wrestled him in the end. I don't see the problem. You can still be a great athlete and worker and still get heel heat. Mr Perfect definitely comes to mind. So does Randy Savage. Shawn Michaels in the late 90s does as well.

Honestly, instead of turning AJ heel, they should have had Desmond join up with Flair and ultimately build to AJ Vs. Wolfe for the title with Hogan in AJ's corner and Flair in Desmond's. Oh well.
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:56 AM   #15 (permalink)
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A heel should be disliked because of his character. As long as he doesn't do somersaults and shooting star presses his wrestling style is unimportant. When a heel turns face how do you explain the change in his wrestling style then?

This seems like a stupid excuse to me.
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This makes zero sense. In order for this to be true we would be seeing this type of stuff up and down the roster. The last time I checked Roode, Aries, Doug Williams, Kurt Angle, Bully Ray, Matt Morgan, and others have all been dominate heels at some point since 2010.

If you think about it Hogan having that mentality would be kind of odd since in the 80's, which the writer references, were actually a better time to be a heel because they were built as monsters and then fed to the top baby faces.

I don't see how this would be kept out of his movie either.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:10 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The problem with Hogan's way of thinking is that it make faces like RVD very lazy if all they have to do is let the heels make them look good.
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I had a feeling Hogan didn't like Nigel.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:34 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I get what they're saying about heels not outshining babyfaces, but that is a bit archaic in this day and age. I still viewed Desmond as the heel regardless, and he was great at playing a heel persona. And in the end of both of their matches, Kurt still out-wrestled him in the end. I don't see the problem. You can still be a great athlete and worker and still get heel heat. Mr Perfect definitely comes to mind. So does Randy Savage. Shawn Michaels in the late 90s does as well.

Honestly, instead of turning AJ heel, they should have had Desmond join up with Flair and ultimately build to AJ Vs. Wolfe for the title with Hogan in AJ's corner and Flair in Desmond's. Oh well.
So much they did wrong at that time. Bring in Nasty Boys and having them go over Eric Young, who had been awarded a good heel push. Having Val Venis cleanly go over Christopher Daniels, who had just headlined a PPV, and lastly Orlando Jordan cleanly defeating Samoa Joe in a squash match.

Never understood the AJ Styles heel turn. He had been on a good run, going over the likes of Sting and Kurt Angle. The next minute he's needing a 61 year old to help him win and acting like a playboy, despite always being pushed as the christian family man he is.

They gave Rob Terry a huge push, then they started jobbing him out. Eric Young became an afterthought in the Wolfpac reunion, complete with no-showing Waltman and obese Hall. Don't get me started on the push to make Abyss face of the company!

Shame because they had a good direction in 2009, with Russo and Ferrara doing a surprisingly decent job, with the exception of having Samoa Joe hand Kurt Angle the world title in a fingerpoke of doom type booking.
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TNA has done a lot of stupid things, but not pushing Nigel is at the top of the list. He was talented in every area of wrestling. I had regained hope that they'd do something with him when they partnered him up with Magnus, but they fucked that up too.
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