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Old 02-02-2013, 10:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well, they have exceptions... xtravaganza one night only features some "unsigned" indy talent. If it's a dvd contract problem then they should try to tweak it a little bit. Because even if they sign top prospects for the x division, the pay per appearance style is very tough for undercard guys.
But most guys wrestled without their names unless they were in TNA before. TJ Perkins for example as Puma and Jigsaw as Rubix. I agree it would help but they also dont want to give a guy a national tv platform have him do amazing and then not be under contract and go somewhere else either Japan or the "E".

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No, if they get more edgy it helps IMO. Not necessarily that the product needs it, but if you have stuff like Hernandez hitting a Border Toss on Gail Kim while these Mexican thugs with their rap music go around destroying people, that's definitely "cool."; wrestling's biggest issue right now is that it's "fake and gay".
I certainly don't mind men destroying women or vice versa. Now that you've put the image of Hernandez giving Gail a Border Toss I'd actually want to see it. Cause I think of it this way, Kong was as strong as a man. So the only problem I could see with women wrestling men is that men wouldn't like the knock to their ego by getting beaten by a woman.

But I'm not sold on the "ethnics acting ethnic" angle. It's so played out in wrestling and it's lazy, as well as somewhat insulting on a level. Like when Aries and Roode said that Hernandez/Chavo were "the help" and to go cook them some quesadillas. That lost some cool points with me because it's cheap and not clever at all. Yes, it's a old-school heel tactic, but it just makes me roll my eyes. Aries, I think, is more clever than that. Jmo.

I don't mind crude humor either, like Bad Influence and Austin Aries have used (him insulting Brooke was hilarious), and I do love innuendo, so that's why I made sure to say "insultingly crude" to wit, over the top a la Katie Vick.
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But I also think that there are still some indy talent that are worth signing. A wrestler who isn't big elsewhere can become great if they're used properly, but it depends on the wrestler, too, so that's not a perfect theory. Motivation to step up their game, polish their gimmick, and get over has to happen too.
Now that TNA is going on the road, they can't afford to carry more talent around nobody gives a shit about. They already have enough of these. Nobody outside the Impact Zone will cheer or boo guys like Jessie Godderz (though he will somewhen draw other than go away heat), Christian York, Wes Brisco or the OVW guys. So: well known and good indy guys - sign them (if there are some left)! Basically unknown and good indy guys - not right now...

And I still wouldn't mind TNA being more adult themed WWE had nudity and real intergender matches back then - even when airing on Spike. The channel got really gay though. The bleeping of mild cuss words like "ass" or "bitch" had driven me nuts. They at least stopped doing that.
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But I also think that there are still some indy talent that are worth signing. A wrestler who isn't big elsewhere can become great if they're used properly, but it depends on the wrestler, too, so that's not a perfect theory. Motivation to step up their game, polish their gimmick, and get over has to happen too.
i think tna doesn't look like there trying that hard with signing indy talents these days, i mean back in 2006-2009 there were so many indy talents signed to build the x-division and the knockouts division, in the last 2 years we havent seen too many only like kenny king, joey ryan, jay bradley etc.

i think if they actually put 100% effort into signing indy talents and not through gut check they could of easily got the indy wrestlers wwe has at the moment. And heres why, TNA and wwe has different systems when signing their indy talents, wwe has a thing for indy guys where they don't make the roster without going through the developmental system for at least 2 years no matter how old or good you are already, in TNA when your signed your pretty much in the roster from day one just look at all the indy talent tna signed back in 2006-2009, just look at wwe guys now people like daniel bryan, wade barrett, sandow took a few years to hit the main roster and these guys pretty much didn't need to be in developmental, yet guys like kenny king, jay bradley, austin aries are already in the main roster without developmental training, if they had signed with wwe theres no doubt they would of been in NXT, this is why i think if tna tried harder with signing indy talents for example calling them and not having them try out for gutcheck they could easily get them over wwe, why do you think jay bradley signed with tna and not wwe, i think a big reason is because he wouldnt have to go through developmentals in tna and in wwe he would probably start with NXT first he was once in wwe for a developmental contract and didn't get shifted to the main roster aswell, and the guys already in his 30's.
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i think tna doesn't look like there trying that hard with signing indy talents these days, i mean back in 2006-2009 there were so many indy talents signed to build the x-division and the knockouts division, in the last 2 years we havent seen too many only like kenny king, joey ryan, jay bradley etc.

i think if they actually put 100% effort into signing indy talents and not through gut check they could of easily got the indy wrestlers wwe has at the moment. And heres why, TNA and wwe has different systems when signing their indy talents, wwe has a thing for indy guys where they don't make the roster without going through the developmental system for at least 2 years no matter how old or good you are already, in TNA when your signed your pretty much in the roster from day one just look at all the indy talent tna signed back in 2006-2009, just look at wwe guys now people like daniel bryan, wade barrett, sandow took a few years to hit the main roster and these guys pretty much didn't need to be in developmental, yet guys like kenny king, jay bradley, austin aries are already in the main roster without developmental training, if they had signed with wwe theres no doubt they would of been in NXT, this is why i think if tna tried harder with signing indy talents for example calling them and not having them try out for gutcheck they could easily get them over wwe, why do you think jay bradley signed with tna and not wwe, i think a big reason is because he wouldnt have to go through developmentals in tna and in wwe he would probably start with NXT first he was once in wwe for a developmental contract and didn't get shifted to the main roster aswell, and the guys already in his 30's.
Wade Barrett is garbage.

TNA needs to put it's scouting team on a hunt for Fergal Devitt.
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Wade Barrett is garbage.

TNA needs to put it's scouting team on a hunt for Fergal Devitt.
well yeah they gotta do something about a few of their division in tna at the moment
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I certainly don't mind men destroying women or vice versa. Now that you've put the image of Hernandez giving Gail a Border Toss I'd actually want to see it. Cause I think of it this way, Kong was as strong as a man. So the only problem I could see with women wrestling men is that men wouldn't like the knock to their ego by getting beaten by a woman.

But I'm not sold on the "ethnics acting ethnic" angle. It's so played out in wrestling and it's lazy, as well as somewhat insulting on a level. Like when Aries and Roode said that Hernandez/Chavo were "the help" and to go cook them some quesadillas. That lost some cool points with me because it's cheap and not clever at all. Yes, it's a old-school heel tactic, but it just makes me roll my eyes. Aries, I think, is more clever than that. Jmo.

I don't mind crude humor either, like Bad Influence and Austin Aries have used (him insulting Brooke was hilarious), and I do love innuendo, so that's why I made sure to say "insultingly crude" to wit, over the top a la Katie Vick.



26 seconds in, the best thing Hernandez has ever done.

And the LAX ethnics acting ethnic thing was not all of what they were, they were a legitimate badass stable who wanted to be champions, and wanted to hurt members of the roster. I mean, they were thugs doing thuggish things, and I think Aries/Roode saying that is actually clever tbh, because they're making fun of the way the characters are being portrayed; they're cool because they're Mexican and want to beat up the bad guys.
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TNA needs to put it's scouting team on a hunt for Fergal Devitt.
Who? So no, sorry.

Guys like these are not helping them on the road. They released quite a lot of talent these days. Replacing them with nobodys (giftet or not) is not the right move atm.
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Talking about the stage, if they use the Bound For Glory stage, I'd be happy. That ramp was probably the best one they've ever had. Just have a long, sloping ramp instead of one which leads straight to the ring.
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A decent sized stage and a good design with a big ramp, dare I say 1999 RAW style or similar is the difference between TNA being good and great.

Make the X Division no DQ and use the areas around the ring more often for big spots.

Have more gimmick matches and 3 big players to join the top of the bill. Make it all a tad more adult themed and we will have a mammoth of a show. Just make sure we never go PG.
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