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joeisgonnakillyou · 01-24-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brown Hippy

To quote a better man, "Kay-fab"

:robbiet

shandcraig · 01-24-2013, 02:39 PM

Little off topic but.I really dont understand how people dont think Impact Wrestling is taking over as the entire Brand. TNA production will stay as the ending credit name as it says that now.

Just go to shoptna and look up the TNA clothing section.Its now only selling Impact Wrestling tshirts. So we have 2 sections selling Impact Wrestling shirts.So many clues to the slow transition. It was smart to do this slow.As they spend years promoting TNA and to switch to IW right away would hurt them.

Im hoping its fully wrapped up by sometime this year.Hell they even all ready shot one of the "One night only" PPVS as fully impact wrestling visually.

http://shoptna.com/tna.aspx

nevereveragainu · 01-24-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedStick

TNA/WWE spammming title matches left to right everybody getting a title match in this era..

to be fair ROH used to do this too, on less important shows that end up on a dvd anyway or if there is no imminent angle involving the world title anybody on the roster who hasn't challenged the world champion yet get to have a go at the belt one on one, that's how Austin Aries first won it

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Originally Posted by hahawas

I do

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Originally Posted by shandcraig

Little off topic but.I really dont understand how people dont think Impact Wrestling is taking over as the entire Brand. TNA production will stay as the ending credit name as it says that now.

Just go to shoptna and look up the TNA clothing section.Its now only selling Impact Wrestling tshirts. So we have 2 sections selling Impact Wrestling shirts.So many clues to the slow transition. It was smart to do this slow.As they spend years promoting TNA and to switch to IW right away would hurt them.

Im hoping its fully wrapped up by sometime this year.Hell they even all ready shot one of the "One night only" PPVS as fully impact wrestling visually.

http://shoptna.com/tna.aspx

there ya go

**Quasi Juice** · 01-24-2013, 02:58 PM

The TNA World Title has credibility, the other titles don't.

Lariatoh! · 01-24-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nevereveragainu

to be fair ROH used to do this too, on less important shows that end up on a dvd anyway or if there is no imminent angle involving the world title anybody on the roster who hasn't challenged the world champion yet get to have a go at the belt one on one, that's how Austin Aries first won it

there ya go

Aries wrestled Low Ki for the #1 contenders spot. It was a time limit draw. Aries wanted 5 more minutes, Ki didn't so Aries went on to face Joe. So I think your memory is a bit hazy on that one chief.

On topic, due to Punk's reign and the Rock wanting the belt, e prestige in the WWE belt has grown in e last few months. During the Roode/Aries feud and the start of the Aries title run, plus the BFG series the TNA belt was put over huge as well. Storylines like these really make the belts look so important, and is what has been missing in wrestling over the last five years, it's great to see it coming back. I won't get into the Hardy situation, but after beating both Aries and Roode he is a strong super champion ( too bad he doesn't show the passion that the other guys do - I'm thinking mainly because he is one of the worst mic workers in the history of the business when it comes to main eventers)

Bazza101 · 01-25-2013, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Austin Aries

Aries said himself that the man (person) holding the belt gives it its credibility. I don't think one company's belt is more credible than the other, because they are, after all, two separate companies. And like I said in another post, there can never truly be a "best" or "most" anything because subjectivity is based on personal preference. There is no such thing as "the best" anything; only the best for you or to you.

So I say again, what is this?

I see where you are coming from with this. I am not a Jeff Hardy hater, but I get absolutely nothing out of him being champion, because I feel that, to his fans, he would be relevant without the belt. They're not attracted to him because he's champion, but because he's different. But I don't personally think of him as a great champion because I don't get that passion that you mentioned from him. I don't like that he made his own belt. If he wanted his own belt, then he could just have one and not be the champion. When he did that, he separated himself from the true championship, in my opinion. I can understand wanting to make your own belt if you're naming yourself a new kind of champion (it's been done before), but the original of an already-establish championship is the one that is supposed to hold the prestige. Compared to Aries, he's an exceedingly dull champion, and while I used to be a fan way back when (Hardy Boyz and Lita), I don't care for his ring work either. He feels like a self-promoter at this point, and while in general I suppose that's not wrong, if you're the champion, you need to try to get the company over as well. Like Aries did in his speech. But if you make your own championship belt that doesn't even carry the company name on it, you're promoting yourself at the expense of the company. I didn't realize that I thought this until typing it now. Jeff Hardy is not the TNA Champion; Jeff Hardy is the Jeff Hardy Champion.

This is where TNA is smart. They know jeff is the only one who can help TNA improve ratings.

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Northfrost · 01-25-2013, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Quasi Juice

The TNA World Title has credibility, the other titles don't.

agreed

TNA's undercard usually seems like small potatoes in recent years.I really miss it's great tag times.It's tag material lately borders on completely irrelevant.I haven't liked it since Roode and Storm went their separate ways.Why they have kept the ko tag belts around for so long was and is anyones guess.Any possible purpose they may have had is long past.

nevereveragainu · 01-25-2013, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bazza101

This is where TNA is smart. They know jeff is the only one who can help TNA improve ratings.]

Dude TNa already burst their own ceiling with 1.5 during the first head to head with Raw, anything less than that is not worth the sacrifice of dignity to having Victory Road Jeffry as the face of the company after he passed his prime like a decade ago

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Originally Posted by Lariatoh!

Aries wrestled Low Ki for the #1 contenders spot. It was a time limit draw. Aries wanted 5 more minutes, Ki didn't so Aries went on to face Joe. So I think your memory is a bit hazy on that one chief. )

sorry, someone on my last online smark stomping ground wrote that Joe vs Aries was just another routine title defense,

while it ended Joes legendary near 2 year run and Aries 1st reign would get eclipsed by CM Punks and Generation Next you gotta give ROH credit, Joe losing to this newbie came out of nowhere

hoganisgod · 01-25-2013, 08:21 AM

they may not be 100% convincingly credible but they outrank most of the WWE's titles (minus the WWE belt) in my opinion and that's only down to how little effort is made building the feuds and champion's up before each PPV. They only seem to be featured now simply because its expected of them as a wrestling company and not because there's any real pursuit for title glory anymore in the WWE. The WHC title holds less prestige now than the ROH belt and that's saying something.

utfrodo54 · 01-25-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bazza101

This is where TNA is smart. They know jeff is the only one who can help TNA improve ratings.

I hate that it is like that. Idk why he has any kind of following.

AA taking the belt off roode, and let alone the way the match went, felt 10000x more 'important' than hardy taking the belt.

someone send him a bag of schwag so he can get thrown off again.