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Old 01-26-2013, 10:15 PM   #71 (permalink)
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KOs division in 2009 was on fire. Daffney, ODB, Tara, Sarita, Alissa Flash, Kong, Hamada, TBP, Kong, Wilde, Roxxi. If they kept Gail Kim, that division would've went through the roof (I mean that in a good way)
Daffney was my favorite Knockout. It would have been cool to see both her and MsChif in TNA.

And "Zombie Hot" (or "Hott") was the only enduring thing I can say that Taz has left me with, for even though "Let the pigeons loose" is amusing, I cannot decipher what it means.

But back to Velvet and clothes, her ring attire was always better than Angelina's, who seemed to look like she threw random stuff together. And her predisposition to push her implants up to her neck was not attractive to me, though, indeed she was the wrestler between the two of them.
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And Russo used none of them correctly. KOs division in 2009 was garbage.
Agreed. Knockouts Division was at one point, almost on par with the mens The division took a hit after Kim left and she should've been their top babyface for the years to come instead of Mickie James (I like Mickie but if Cena is Superman she's Wonder Woman)

Should've also built up ODB as a babyface and never turned her heel. Her gimmick is likeable and resonates well with the TNA fans in the South. Could've been the Stone Cold of the Knockouts

Wilde should've been built up as the future of Awesome Kong and possibly be the trainee of Tara. She was underused and was basically the Kelly Kelly of TNA with better wrestling skills.

Tara is great but she was 40 when she came into TNA. They should've booked her in a Legends role (HBK/HHH of the KO), and have her continue to feud with TBP to improve their ring work. Instead they had her running around trying to relive her glory days.

Kong should've stayed as the monster. IMO she's still the most intimidating woman in pro wrestlign next to Chyna. Her random feuds fit her but they started to ruin her character by having Raisha Saeed betray her and having her team up with Hamada. Started to turn into the next Kane.

They should've still kept TBP as the top heels but never add Lacey Von Erich or Madison Rayne. Madison Rayne should've broken out of the group much earlier to become the Queen Bee, leaving it as just Angelina & Velvet, who should've stayed heels with Angelina having the ring skills and Velvet with the mic skills.

They should've had Daffney not be the hardcore spot monkey, and jobber that would start hanging out with Dr. Stevie, Raven, & Abyss every few months. She should've been the Scream Queen, the dark child of the Knockouts, that TNA should've eventually phased the gimmick out, and they could've possibly had a Lita on their hands.

And Roxxi was just straight up underused. They just jobbed her out. They should've had her been the Hardcore Knockout she was and well put her in Hardcore Matches. Should've been the no nonsense brawler of the Division along with ODB.

And last was Hamada, Sarita, & Alissa Flash. Hamada had a mystique about her and that was shown when she did a turnbuckle moonsault through a table on Melissa. They should've built her up as the woman who came from Japan, to not play any games and earn a Championship. Same with Sarita. She was the high-flying Knockout with a different style. Build her up as a babyface also. Instead of teaming with Taylor, she should've went to war with her in a friendly feud for who will be the future of the Division.

Alissa was just used all wrong. She was Beth Phoenix with alot more skill. They should've booked her as the top heel.

TNA really screwed up the Knockouts in 2009. If they used the correct booking with the roster they had, the Knockouts Championship could've been seen as a prestigious title.

(Could've been) Division:
Gail Kim
Awesome Kong
Taylor Wilde
Sarita
ODB
Angelina Love/Velvet Sky
Madison Rayne
Daffney
Roxxi
Tara
Alissa Flash
Hamada
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And Russo used none of them correctly. KOs division in 2009 was garbage.
We're not saying they were used correctly, but when they got to duke it out, it was worth a watch. I could complain, but meh. It's years ago and I'll be happy knowing I got the matches we got.

Wished I owned the matches between Flash/Hamada/Daffney. Don't own much from TNA in 2009 and the knockouts matches I do own, SUCK.
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We're not saying they were used correctly, but when they got to duke it out, it was worth a watch. I could complain, but meh. It's years ago and I'll be happy knowing I got the matches we got.

Wished I owned the matches between Flash/Hamada/Daffney. Don't own much from TNA in 2009 and the knockouts matches I do own, SUCK.
Which ones do you own?
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Lockdown, Sacrifice, Hard Justice, & No Surrender.

Knockouts Tag Titles match from No Surrender could be dubbed as fun for what it was. Rest isn't worth a mention.
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I guess Velvet going back to her old look in the UK paid off!
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I think she looks great. Her new ring attire makes her look more like an actual wrestler. Atleast more than any of her past attire ever has. I don't know what she has been doing with hair lately though. She's been looking like she's going to prom or something but she looks nice with the way she's been wearing. It's just not the apropriate wrestling hair style. And I've always hated the way she piles on the makeup. It has always bothered me because it makes her look like a $5 hoe but ever since I saw her without makeup on an episode of the Spin Cycle, the makeup has bothered me even more. She's GORGEOUS without makeup and it makes me mad she hides it with something she thinks makes her look prettier. Overall I've always thought she criminally overrated, until I saw her without makeup. I mean I still think she's overrated but atleast she makes a good argument for herself when she don't have makeup on.
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Out of the Beautiful People, Velvet had the mic skills, while Angelina had the in ring skills.
actually, Angelina had BOTH ring skill and mic skill.

check out any videos of her with mic back then, like when she won the belt and thanked the fans, which was hysterical, or when she had to sign a rematch with Kong. Her banter with Kong and Cornette was classic.
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She has to be THE most over-pushed and overrated female wrestler in recent history, I just don't see what she brings.

I think Tessmacher does the ass-shaking face role way better and she's made more progress on her in-ring skills in 3 years than Velvet has in 6. I think Velvet's gone very stale, even with changing her outfit and hair and I can't see how she's any better in the ring now than she's ever been. The girl can't even run properly and she's still botching moves since coming back.

Put her in a tag team with Tessmacher or turn her heel or something, I could see her role when she was in the Beautiful People but this single's push has bored me for years now.

One of the main reasons I was glad Taz joined Aces & 8s was because hopefully he'd stop doing that stupid "let the pigeons loose" thing.
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