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01-21-2013, 05:32 AM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: Is There Anyone Worse Than Chavo Out There?
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Originally Posted by JoeRulz
Fucking Chavo Guerrero Jr... Quite possible the most boring and useless sack of shit in TNA since the Nasty Boyz. Maybe even worse. Hmmm, let's evaluate him:
- can't cut promos
- boring, bland and dull, and whatever
- brings nothing to the table
- PAINFULLY mediocre wrestler, at best
- exploits his late brother to get some cheap pops... ALL THE TIME
Seriously, it baffles me there's someone in TNA management who thinks fucking CHAVO could be useful. "Hm, let's pander to the Latino audience... Send for CHAVO!"
Not to mention the fact that fucking Chavo and his almost equally useless pile of shit of a partner Shawn are the tag team champions since BFG. Chavo's (and tag division's) greatest moment in TNA has been that angry window face when Morgan and Ryan were cutting their promo. That speaks volumes.
Anyway, Roode and Aries need to dethrone those malignant tumors ASAP.
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that bit cracked me up
and I agree with the rest of your post - especially about Hernandez who just needs to fuck off before he really kills someone
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01-21-2013, 05:40 AM
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Re: Is There Anyone Worse Than Chavo Out There?
The peak of his poor career was as the Swagger soaring eagle.
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01-21-2013, 06:55 AM
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Re: Is There Anyone Worse Than Chavo Out There?
The hatred is he's old. All he has going for him is he's "decent" in the ring. So what? Bully Ray is in his 40s and he entirely re-invented his look and persona while getting in the best shape of his career and working some honestly awesome matches. Kurt Angle is in his 40s and he's Kurt FREAKIN Angle.
Christopher "TNA's Own Appletini Angel" Daniels has been one of the best characters on the roster this year and he's superb in the ring.
Somebody in his 40s had better be on that level. If all somebody can say is "I'm decent in the ring" and they are in their 40s, get out of here. Get off the roster. There is only so much room on the roster for people like that. Kash and Douglas Williams already do that.
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01-21-2013, 07:08 AM
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Re: Is There Anyone Worse Than Chavo Out There?
^TNA made him as generic as possible, chavo came down as eddie's brother into a generic latino tag team. Even if the guy wanted to reinvent himself, he's stuck.
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01-21-2013, 07:16 AM
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Re: Is There Anyone Worse Than Chavo Out There?
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Originally Posted by Hailsabin
He had the hate back while he was in the WWE. It's been here for a while except for one poster I recall enjoying him.
Alcoholic, come back to us.
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When exactly? Since Chavo's only bad WWE years were from 2009-2011. This thread is ridiculous sure he's no Rock or Stone Cold Steve Austin but to take away his ring talent is just wrong and to the OP you obviously never watched his WCW and his good WWE material. Chavo having no charisma is very wrong, th eonly time Chavo doesn't receieve reactions was due to not being used in storylines or been off TV of course he's not going to get reactions then. When he's used he certainly gets the proverbial "CHAAVOO SUCKS CHAAVOO SUCKS" why would he ge those chants if none cared? He gets those because he plays a nice heel role. He suits that role much better and his mic work is far better as a heel.
Chavo Guerrero had a pretty decent career he's the only man next to Rey Mysterio to have multiple Cruiserweight Championship runs, and was a prominent cruiserweight during this time, surely this wouldn't happen if he didn't have any talent. During Los Guerreros, both men came into this gimmick and had some of the best tag team matches to date and surely if Chavo didn't possess any abilities WWE wouldn't formed this team they could have gave Eddie a different partner but Eddie and Chavo worked well.
After Los Guerreros disbanded what happened? Chavo gained some serious heat and became this crazed egotistical heel who destroyed his uncle Eddie in an awesome segment. It was great and this was a great family war, even had Chavo Classic involved and as his manager which was good touch to this strong heel push. Chavo would continue to have great matches with other cruiserweights especially Rey Mysterio, in fact Mysterio and Chavo mainevented a couple times on SmackDown that's how good their rivalry has been since WCW days. Afterwards Chavo's rekindled feud with Rey Mysterio was awesome, and that feud with Chris Benoit had good matches involved.
Then how about La Familia and ECW in 2008? Chavo captures the ECW Championship and had quite in entertaining feud with CM Punk which was fresh and new for ECW. Remember the Fiesta segment? The Gulf of Mexico match? Chavo Guerrero and CM Punk really worked well together and this was definately one of Chavo's higlights. Their was great promo work between them and this showed what Chavo was capable of, he's a nice heel and in TNA he's only been face when he turns he'll suit the role comfortably.
Chavo's had good matches and wins over former World Champions, he's had good matches with HHH, Undertaker, JBL, Eddie, Mysterio, Benoit, Punk, Angle, Edge, and many of the cruiserweights. Why do people only focus on what he's doing now and not remembering the good time sof Chavo's career?
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01-21-2013, 07:21 AM
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Learning to break kayfabe
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^TNA made him as generic as possible, chavo came down as eddie's brother into a generic latino tag team. Even if the guy wanted to reinvent himself, he's stuck.
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01-21-2013, 11:52 AM
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Re: Is There Anyone Worse Than Chavo Out There?
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Originally Posted by 619Animal
When exactly? Since Chavo's only bad WWE years were from 2009-2011. This thread is ridiculous sure he's no Rock or Stone Cold Steve Austin but to take away his ring talent is just wrong and to the OP you obviously never watched his WCW and his good WWE material. Chavo having no charisma is very wrong, th eonly time Chavo doesn't receieve reactions was due to not being used in storylines or been off TV of course he's not going to get reactions then. When he's used he certainly gets the proverbial "CHAAVOO SUCKS CHAAVOO SUCKS" why would he ge those chants if none cared? He gets those because he plays a nice heel role. He suits that role much better and his mic work is far better as a heel.
Chavo Guerrero had a pretty decent career he's the only man next to Rey Mysterio to have multiple Cruiserweight Championship runs, and was a prominent cruiserweight during this time, surely this wouldn't happen if he didn't have any talent. During Los Guerreros, both men came into this gimmick and had some of the best tag team matches to date and surely if Chavo didn't possess any abilities WWE wouldn't formed this team they could have gave Eddie a different partner but Eddie and Chavo worked well.
After Los Guerreros disbanded what happened? Chavo gained some serious heat and became this crazed egotistical heel who destroyed his uncle Eddie in an awesome segment. It was great and this was a great family war, even had Chavo Classic involved and as his manager which was good touch to this strong heel push. Chavo would continue to have great matches with other cruiserweights especially Rey Mysterio, in fact Mysterio and Chavo mainevented a couple times on SmackDown that's how good their rivalry has been since WCW days. Afterwards Chavo's rekindled feud with Rey Mysterio was awesome, and that feud with Chris Benoit had good matches involved.
Then how about La Familia and ECW in 2008? Chavo captures the ECW Championship and had quite in entertaining feud with CM Punk which was fresh and new for ECW. Remember the Fiesta segment? The Gulf of Mexico match? Chavo Guerrero and CM Punk really worked well together and this was definately one of Chavo's higlights. Their was great promo work between them and this showed what Chavo was capable of, he's a nice heel and in TNA he's only been face when he turns he'll suit the role comfortably.
Chavo's had good matches and wins over former World Champions, he's had good matches with HHH, Undertaker, JBL, Eddie, Mysterio, Benoit, Punk, Angle, Edge, and many of the cruiserweights. Why do people only focus on what he's doing now and not remembering the good time sof Chavo's career?
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For the uneducated who asked what good work Chavo did, this is a much better answer than I would have said.
A large portion of the IWC are filled with hate-filled, bandwagon-jumping, back patters.
The rest of us think for ourselves.
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01-21-2013, 01:43 PM
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Re: Is There Anyone Worse Than Chavo Out There?
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Originally Posted by 619Animal
When exactly? Since Chavo's only bad WWE years were from 2009-2011. This thread is ridiculous sure he's no Rock or Stone Cold Steve Austin but to take away his ring talent is just wrong and to the OP you obviously never watched his WCW and his good WWE material. Chavo having no charisma is very wrong, th eonly time Chavo doesn't receieve reactions was due to not being used in storylines or been off TV of course he's not going to get reactions then. When he's used he certainly gets the proverbial "CHAAVOO SUCKS CHAAVOO SUCKS" why would he ge those chants if none cared? He gets those because he plays a nice heel role. He suits that role much better and his mic work is far better as a heel.
Chavo Guerrero had a pretty decent career he's the only man next to Rey Mysterio to have multiple Cruiserweight Championship runs, and was a prominent cruiserweight during this time, surely this wouldn't happen if he didn't have any talent. During Los Guerreros, both men came into this gimmick and had some of the best tag team matches to date and surely if Chavo didn't possess any abilities WWE wouldn't formed this team they could have gave Eddie a different partner but Eddie and Chavo worked well.
After Los Guerreros disbanded what happened? Chavo gained some serious heat and became this crazed egotistical heel who destroyed his uncle Eddie in an awesome segment. It was great and this was a great family war, even had Chavo Classic involved and as his manager which was good touch to this strong heel push. Chavo would continue to have great matches with other cruiserweights especially Rey Mysterio, in fact Mysterio and Chavo mainevented a couple times on SmackDown that's how good their rivalry has been since WCW days. Afterwards Chavo's rekindled feud with Rey Mysterio was awesome, and that feud with Chris Benoit had good matches involved.
Then how about La Familia and ECW in 2008? Chavo captures the ECW Championship and had quite in entertaining feud with CM Punk which was fresh and new for ECW. Remember the Fiesta segment? The Gulf of Mexico match? Chavo Guerrero and CM Punk really worked well together and this was definately one of Chavo's higlights. Their was great promo work between them and this showed what Chavo was capable of, he's a nice heel and in TNA he's only been face when he turns he'll suit the role comfortably.
Chavo's had good matches and wins over former World Champions, he's had good matches with HHH, Undertaker, JBL, Eddie, Mysterio, Benoit, Punk, Angle, Edge, and many of the cruiserweights. Why do people only focus on what he's doing now and not remembering the good time sof Chavo's career?
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Because nobody cares how good Chavo was in his prime when he completely sucks now?
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01-21-2013, 01:53 PM
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Charismatic Enigma
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Re: Is There Anyone Worse Than Chavo Out There?
Chavo doesn't really suck right now. Lets figure out why he's hated in the TNA section
ex-WWE
Plays a simple face role
doesn't really fit that face role
"living his career off of eddies death" which is horse shit, because thats what rey mysterio did for a while. Chavos never had success just off of that fact. hes only given eddie shoutouts here and there, only recently a little more notable in tna but its still not rey mysterio esque
People just want to bandwagon and let off hate on what they can and the fact is none of the haters even gave him a chance.
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01-21-2013, 02:04 PM
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